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Until you confirm the equipment is working properly your just spinning your wheels trying different materials and garments. We have literally done tens of thousands of Stahls die cut numbers and in house cut names and numbers using several different materials including plastisol transfers and maybe had fifty come back over the past six years. When they do come back you can smell the fabric softener which can loosen the decoration. About 80% of these jobs have been on Badger or Augusta mesh basketball reversible jersey with rather large holes. Most of the products out there today will stick to almost anything with the proper heat and pressure.
 
we had the same problem using some of the pre-cut numbers. then we discovered the operator was applying them glue-side up :p yes, there is a difference & yes it matters!
 
According to our friends at Geo Knight, typical point and shoot IR thermometers aren't reliable for heat presses. They don't read aluminum well, so you may not get a reliable reading. A contact thermometer is more accurate.
 
Discussion starter · #44 ·
without trying to sound like a jerk...what type/brand of heat press do you have i.e. is it a clamshell? who makes it?

if you are serious about doing heat transfers for a living you might want to check out the new hotronix line of automatic swing away presses. i know if i was just doing transfers i'd invest in one myself but i rarely use my heat press now since switching to silk screening.

when doing team jerseys it only makes sense to get number packages from people that offer the plastisol transfers. a couple of years ago i did a bunch of jerseys both football on poly/nylon and softball on poly/cotton and got my number packs from

Screen Printed Transfer Numbers | Transfer Express

and they worked like a charm. no probs whatsoever. doing your own cutting then weeding for every name and number is not cost effective.
We have a hotronix clamshell, purchased new 2-2 1/2 years ago.
 
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we had the same problem using some of the pre-cut numbers. then we discovered the operator was applying them glue-side up :p yes, there is a difference & yes it matters!
LOL...I can say that wasn't the issue...however we have stuck things on upside down without paying attention. LOL :)
 
I did my son's teams jerseys using Stahl's thermofilm in white on red and navy Augusta jerseys. We did team name on front with numbers in back. Additionally, we applied color printed, cadcut transfer on the sleeves for the league's logo. The jerseys are nylon and spandex. I used white thermogrip. The film was thinner than my usual vinyl which is 123 magic cut. The color of the jersey does cast a color, but does not bleed on the thermofilm. The cad cut league logo from transfer express does show bleed thru from the red. To date, none of the embellishments have lifted. I consider myself to be an amateur since I have been in business about a year. Our whole team's jerseys still look great and we have been playing in them since this summer. I use a Stahl's hottronix swing away model press like you. I followed all directions to a tee from Stahl's and transfer express. There must be some extenuating circumstance you have not identified.

For future reference of yourself and others reading this thread, here are the best tips I have learned: don't wash your garments before embellishing, consider keeping the platen down on preheat so the bottom platen heats through as well, do not accept garments from individuals -order them from the mfr. yourself since people always seem to insist on washing stuff even when asked not to, consider the double-press as suggested, preheat your garment to remove moisture, do not embellish with vinyl over seams, use a Teflon pillow inside the garment if there are buttons or seams on the opposite side that may cause an uneven application.

If all of these tips that have been shared here on this thread and mfr instructions are followed, there should be no reason your designs are not working. I hope you can get to the bottom of things as it is scary and frustrating to think this could happen to anyone. Please continue to share your progress.
 
If the jersey is of poor quality or not made from durable materials, then the numbers may start to peel off easily. If the numbers are peeling off, it's important to take care of them immediately to avoid further damage. You can try to re-attach the numbers using fabric glue or by sewing them back on. If the damage is severe, you may need to replace the entire jersey.
 
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