I have never heard of diluting the white shirt pretreat. Only diluting the dark shirt pretreat to use on light shirts... which some people stopped doing when AA came out with "light shirt pretreat".

 

Oh thanks Jeff.. I was worried about not diluting as I cared more about the washability. Well I'll dump this load out and do a fresh batch of non diluted. I dont know where I thought wrong in the process but thanks for the refresher. I owe you a coke.

 

I have never diluted any of the PT or cleaning products from AA.

 

We have never diluted any pretreat as well. We use less pretreat on the lights and light pretreat on the whites. We have not had any issues so far.

 

No prob... coke, no beer?
Cheers, beers are on Peter always! LOL.

 

I'm drinking one of Peter's beers right now Cheers everyone from Philly.

 

Why pre-treat whites?

Surely you will get a yellow stain on the shirts form the heat press?

 

If you use less pretreat but good coverage and 320 degrees for a shorter period of time (30-40 sec) and after print hit it for 3 30 sec intervals then you do not get the discoloration and if you get some then after it cools it goes away.

 

Pre-treating white shirts makes the colours pop and the black, blacker

You shouldn't see any marks from the pre-treat fluid.

 

And washes better.
Cheers! Have $€£¥ day.

 

I actually used to just use the dark shirt pretreat and cut it 50/50 for my lights. I never once noticed yellowing of white shirts. I applied very little and it made the colors pop real good. I have since switched to light shirt pretreat just because of suggestions and users telling me it has better wash results than the way I was doing it.

 

Does anyone use the white shirt pretreat from AA? Im not diluting it but the blacks just arent very dark as compared to the one I used before. I wont say any names as I dont look to promote any other company but it seems this pretreat is a bit watered down. Wonder if I just got a bad batch.

 

i use AA light pretreat without dilution, and the amount i use is about 1/4 of what i would use in dark pretreat. just a light misting is all you need. i then press the shirt twice (330 degrees) for 10 seconds each, or until the steam is gone. this makes the production mode look better, but the hi-res really looks great and doesn't bleed.

 

Would you do the same thing with a 60/40 cotton/poly shirt safety green shirt? We just did some with a full color logo (including white under base) and the wash results aren't the greatest. I'm thinking we just used too much pretreat. We used dark pretreat because we were printing white ink. We lost a very small amount of colored in in the wash test.

 

I was so busy last two days. We have 2 biggest Brazil companies are visiting AA now. 2.5billion/yr . OMG.
Long time ago, competitors told people "AA is dilute ink" because AA insists lowest price all the time. . Now Pretreat possibility? LOL.
While AA believes "your Success is our Success"?
I rather see you will check your process first. I know all says "I did same thing""I did all AA said".
Cheers! Beers are on me always.

 

2.5 billion damn... they must be looking at Aeoon?

 

Actually, many NeoFlexs and Aeoons. Staying one whole week.
Entertain after entertains.
Samples, short run for NeoFlex and production for Aeoon. Since image quality is same. They said they have 50 MHM automatics.
Cheers! Have $€£¥ day!

 

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you must use the dark pretreat if white ink is involved. i, too, have printed with white ink on the safety green shirts, and i wasn't impressed with the results. the print also tends to crack much sooner than a 100% cotton shirt. a light misting won't give you enough pretreat for the white to look "white". too much pretreat will cause the print to degrade in the wash. i just stay away from the safety colors. not every type of garment is cut out to wear the DTG print.

 

Thanks' that's kind of where I thought this line of printing was going.