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USCutter or CutterPro?

9.9K views 29 replies 12 participants last post by  theflowerboxx  
#1 ·
Ok, I know that the roland is better, but after searching for a used or refurbished one, I can't seem to find a roland for any less than twice the price of either of these 2.

Anyone have an opinion on which would be the better of the 2 between the cutters offered be USCutters or CutterPros? They seem to be the same, with the exception that UDCutters list a 16 bit processor and CutterPros lists a 32 bit processor. There is also a difference of cutting force. Just a typo in specs?

Well, please share your opinions/experiences, thanks in advance.
 
#2 ·
Just based on user reviews here, I'd personally go with the USCutters plotter before the other. But if they really are essentially the same machine, I'd say that you'd most likely be okay with either one.

How is the support for the CutterPros? Many people like the support that USCutter gives through their forums. Is something like that available for the CutterPros machine?

Also, do you have links to the actual plotters that you're considering? USCutters has several models available. I dont' know about CutterPros.

Thanks! :)
 
#14 · (Edited)
Sorry for the delay in responding to this post. I inquired again and was told that the CuttorPro machine does indeed use the same (16 bit) mainboard as ours. The "CR" model which they sell represents the different case and molding, and it was initially intended that the machine would use the newer mainboard, but from what I understand they old mainboard was used instead. I think that this is just a case of CutterPro copying the specs from the manufacturer without understanding the product.

I would say that the 16-bit model is actually better than the 32-bit model for several reasons:

1. The 32 bit model is a brand new design. I think the primary reason for its introduction was for cost-cutting. Since it is a different architecture, it will not be compatible with all the software that the PCUT currently works with.

2. Chinese manufacturers have a reputation for releasing unfinished products and we actually turned down the 32 bit mainboard in favor of the 16 bit mainboard because of the understanding of the general release cycle that the manufacturers are using. They do not do sufficiently thorough testing and primarily rely on the customers to do the testing for them. I have personally visited the factory several times, and each time, they say they are "close" to solutions solving problems that they are working on, but to date, I haven't seen a satisfactory solution.

We have come to the conclusion that all the plotters we sell (with the exception of the Copam) are not technically sofisticated enough to offer any advantage over a relatively "dumb" machine. We instead, work with relatively sophisticated software developers (SignBlazer is our #1 choice) who years ago recognized the eventual popularity of low-cost machines and as such developed sophisticated ways to manipulate these relatively (dumb) devices. Much in the same way that printers have transitioned from having a great deal of internal processing capability to instead using the computer CPU, plotters have done the same. Instead of relying on relatively unsophisticated hardware-based algorithms, we rely on the software (which is updated regularly) to provide extremely sophisticated processing capability.

3. I asked about the relative reliability of mainboards (in terms of failure over the first year) and I was told that the old mainboard has a failure rate of about .5% while the newer mainboard technology has a failure rate of 2%. In practice, I believe that our failure rates are higher than .5%, so I would say "scale accordingly". From what I understand, most of the failures are caused by plugging and unplugging ports and the associated "static zap" that can occur and it seems that the newer electronics are more sensitive to such problems.
 
#12 ·
will I got the US Cutter Pcut and I was having problem with set up will Marcus the OWNER seen that I needed help and did that it was 6:00pm and stayed on it to get me up and running it was about 1 hour and he had me going with no problems I tell you I would buy. Any owner that can do what he did I would buy from
 
#13 ·
i totally agree with david.
us cutters tech support has been excelllent. they do go above and beyond to help u. i have spoke with ken personally and he was kind, patient, and very professional. they also have a forum where they really try to help each other with issues.
when i purchase my second cutter, it will be from us cutter. i have owned a graftec and the support sucks to me. u can't get them on the phone. where as us cutters has the forum, email, and phone support.
 
#17 ·
HI Gary after playing with it I got the program to work had to set it so I could find the pics I wanted to use. The only thing so far is when you put vector pic on there program it will make you go and vector it that is what I dont like the last cutter I had you just send the pic and cut this one I just need to learn more
 
#19 ·
Well, I was almost convinced. I asked if there was a difference, and basically find out they are for the most part identical. kenimes, I feel that your last post was not really called for, just my opinion, but to bring up how many people are on your forums vs theirs did not strike me as professional. I like for a company to stand on its own merit, not in comparison to others. I will most likely be going with the other company.
 
#23 ·
anyone that owns a company that provides excellent service has a right to defend it. ur money is yours and u have a right to spend it where u please. but if u really look at the big picture, it's not personal its about the service and support that u will receive after u purchase the product.
i am so glad that i choose to purchase mine from uscutters. they know their equipment in and out. some companies just sell a brand and can't even help u with it. i know i have experience this first hand with another cutter that i owned which i did return. thanks us cutters for your outstanding service that u provide, and it's okay to defend ur reputation when u know the value of it.
 
#21 ·
Certainly was not trying to be unprofessional, so I will remove it. Just letting y'all know we have been doing this alot longer. I apologize if it left a bad taste in your mouth.

:)
i didn't think that the comparison was unprofessional. i took it as a reaasurance of the support that us cutters offer to their customers. i reallly don't think ken was trying to be derogative against anything or anyone. he's really a nice guy and the company really do go above and beyond to help their customers out even when the company is closed like on weekends and so forth. there's also another gentleman named marcus, that helps think he is the owner. us cutters even help customers with other brands that they don't even sell and to me that's no even heard of in this day and time.
 
#22 ·
I am like dodank this company has one of the best support and yes marcus did stay after hours one day to help me he could have said call me on monday but he stayed and get me up and going on friday when he could of went home this to me is survice and if you think there are try to bash other companys look around the forum and you will see lot of it to me this is nothing compaired to other post just my two cents
 
#24 ·
Indeed, I only posted the comparison to show that we have been doing this much longer, and the value we add is much greater. Nothing more, nothing less. We pride ourselves on not stooping to the low of some sellers by forum bashing, and this was nowhere near an attempt to do so. I do understand his point, and how it could have been taken the wrong way, so I edited my post.

Thank you dodank, and mrdavid for knowing, and confirming, who we are and what we stand for.


:)
 
#25 ·
ken, ur welcome. but let me say this. i'm a very picky person when it comes to doing business with anyone. and yes i do have a reputation of expecting to get what i paid for. if i didn't truly know and believe in this company, i would have in no way posted anything at all. i read the post the gentleman made several times before commenting. it really bothered me because of what i have experience. although i am new in the vinyl cuttering industry, i do know when i am supported with a product. that leads me to be fair and just with that company. just to make a point in my closing statement. i'm the one who if u can't help me with your product i will return it through frustration. when i called uscutters to ask for help i was ready to return the product, ken answered the phone and completely changed my demeanor, and that's not easy when i get to a certain point of frustion. he was patient, kind, calming, and treated me like i was human and not just another caller. i know i 'm good at wrecking people nerves when i'm in that state. but ken never show me a hint of it. i said that to say this, i'm not easily impressed by any means, and for me to continue to comment on this post says a lot. ken u keep doing what u do, and u will prevail in the end.

that's all folks:D
be easy
 
#26 ·
Ken no problem if you look at lot of my post you will see that I test lot of products and yes I do it with my own money I have friends here that call me the Mad Scientist becouse I do this then when I get some thing new I tell every one even when people tell me not to or go with some thing else if its good or bad I will not lie and I dont get paid for this so for me to make good coments on it it better be good and yes I have made some companys hear mad at me for my coments on there products