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Graham, unfortunately you just discovered first hand that you can't do dye sub on a dark garment. You can only use white or light colored polyester when doing dye sub on garments.

In order to get a full-bodied black shirt, with your yellow and gray logo, you would have to dye sub the entire shirt (a white shirt) using a wide format printer and heat press. The other option would be a professional cut and sew process. Either way, you have to start with a white (or light colored) polyester.

 

Newbie mistakes lol

Thanks for the advice m8

 

What did i do Wrong?

The thing about dye sublimation is that it is DYE.

The you are dying the fibers of the shirt not printing on top of them.

I usually explain it to customers by referencing paint and stain. Paint is like your screen printing ink, it covers the substrate (shirt in this case) and can make the image any color. Dye sublimation is more like a stain. You can never stain something lighter only darker. Sublimation is the same way.

 

Great!

That is the one Excellent Definition for newbies i have ever read.

 

I have seen Black polyester Dye sub T-Shirts. They are Black with a white area on the front or back I will try to find the supplier and post it.

 

We make this shirts. You may take a look at our provisional site. We will have a proper website with store later on this week.

Thanks!

 

We make this shirts. You may take a look at our provisional site. We will have a proper website with store later on this week.

Thanks!

Max can you share the cost of you shirt yet. You must have a ball park price by now, it has been coming soon for months.

 

You can turn a white shirt into ANY color you want with oversize pressing. .

 

There are issues with all over prints. It is almost impossible to do without leaving white areas on the sides and under the arms. Plus the startup cost is rather high. I have been doing a little research on this as I am thinking about offering all over prints

 

Mark and Sickpuppy,
As you can see we address the voids with the proper art work. We encourage the correct art work to hide the voids.
Mark we have been over and over the more proftable nitches of dye sub and we don't need to go over that again because we are in agreement, but I still like to crush shirts, on Super Bowl Sunday. Go Ravens.

 

Hi Dave. It's on the site, $6.90 per shirt. Rectangles will be priced lower than custom voids. We'll have a special first sale.

We're sorry about the delay. It´s been caused by customs issues. Our product was hard to classify because of the different blanks in every shirt, but we're mostly good to go now.

 

hey Max,
have you considered offering an Oval along with the rectangle? there are several popular desktops that print 13"X19" so a 12 X 18 Oval might work well, maybe a little easier to blend than a square corner. Given a choice I would purchase an oval blank over a rectangle.
Just a thought

 

Great I want to try them. I'll take two of each size email me for payment.
dave@skmfg.com

 

I am curious as to how well the black dye will match the shirt color. Say I want to order some shirts and just to keep it simple I order a shirt with 12 x 18 inch blank shape. Now I want to place a custom print on the shirt that has an odd shape. If I just fill the background of my image with black how well will it match the shirt color. Will it blend in unnoticed or will it look like a big black square with a color print in the center. I don't want to order shirts with custom blank shapes each time I just want to keep blanks on hand with a standard print area.

 

I am curious as to how well the black dye will match the shirt color. Say I want to order some shirts and just to keep it simple I order a shirt with 12 x 18 inch blank shape. Now I want to place a custom print on the shirt that has an odd shape. If I just fill the background of my image with black how well will it match the shirt color. Will it blend in unnoticed or will it look like a big black square with a color print in the center. I don't want to order shirts with custom blank shapes each time I just want to keep blanks on hand with a standard print area.

I did this for DTG a number of years ago and matching black is a problem.
SEE www.eclipsetees.com

 

Thanks Dave! Two of each going your way! I`ll e-mail you as soon as the store is up.

Jack: Almost any shape is possible. For the first orders we will suggest our costumers to order only simple shapes, preferentially with straight lines, to make the registration easier. Rectangles of any proportion should be easy. Squares, and irregular polygons with not too many sides, anything that has a opposite sides you could trim with scissors or a cutter to check the fit, should be easy to position on the blank. Ovals and circles should be easy too. We plan to build a small inventory according to the most ordered shapes, but the focus of our service will be custom shapes, simple or more elaborated.

Puppy: I don't think the blacks will be easy to match. We will provide a test fabric with a blank space with each order so our costumers can try heat, pressure and time setting before using a shirt. You could print a color and black swatch and try to match it.

Thank you all.

 

When it comes to "black" sublimated t-shirts we do both - "crush" ready-made t-shirts with all-over print and custom make them. We have enough clients for both types of shirts. Some actually prefer ready-made all-over printed shirts and even if their quantities justify custom production, they go for ready-made option. As Dave pointed out - the artwork can be adjusted to make any distress look planned and deliberate.

 

I know this is a few months old, but I wanted to share some testswe've been doing.

As Dave pointed out, matching the blacks it´s not easy. It depends on heat press pressure, time and temperature. But the most important factor are the inks.

Trying to make the matching easier, we made a simple color chart. In the lower side we made some squares with some variations on black.

With this particular printer and heat press, the best matching black is not RGB 000, but R-0, G-20, and B-20.

The light direction also affects the perceived hue of the tones, on the print and on the shirt because it's a slightly shiny fabric. But generally speaking, is possible to get a pretty close match in blacks, not indistinguishable, but acceptable.

 

Re: Sublimating on Black 100% Polyester &cotton T

Any interest in a cotton t-shirt with a white poly shape sewn in so you can sublimate to that shape?
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Re: Sublimating on Black 100% Polyester &cotton T

Any interest in a cotton t-shirt with a white poly shape sewn in so you can sublimate to that shape?
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Why would you want to do that??

 

Why go to all this trouble... The whole idea is to have a shirt with no hand... Not a shirt with a piece of cardboard hung on it...

 

where can you get the black polyester shirts with the white blank space for sublimating I seen several places that give the web site sublimatte.comÂ*-Â*This website is for sale!Â*-Â*sublimatte Resources and Information. and I get now where the site does not have where you can buy those shirts.

 

Hi Cherlmas. We were on hiatus, and then started making shirts just for local costumers. We are working on re branding the line and start exporting again. Hopefully this summer.

 

thanks let me know the link when you get going I am in the U.S. and saw several places talking about this type of shirt with the white blank area for sublimating and even saw a video on you tube with this shirt and everyone I saw was giving the link sublimatte.comÂ*-Â*This website is for sale!Â*-Â*sublimatte Resources and Information. and the link is not good. I want to buy some of these shirts. I was saying awhile back that they need to come out with a window polyester shirt just like the one you have. so please let me know if and when you will be selling these shirts. Are yall the only ones doing this type of shirt.

 

Yes. As far as we know, we are the only shop doing this shirt. It's an original process we developed. We are working to get them to the US as soon as possible.

 

I'm interested in buying some of these shirts when ready..
Rudy

 

please let me know when you are selling in the us I will be checking back here from time to time I really want some of these shirts.

 

these black shirts would have been awesome for a big Job we are doing this April would love to be able to order these now for the that tournament we are printing the shirts and they would love them cause I would be needing about 100 shirts so I would give you a good business and plus I would order more later. Oh you should do different colors man If you offer different colors with this process you would be doing awesome and I would buy a bunch from you all the time. I would love to have some right now.

 

oh another question could you different sizes of the blank area like I have a sublimation printer that prints 13x19 so could you make the blank area that size ore a little smaller like 12x 13 or 12x14 or 15. I am excited about these shirts can't wait to be able to get some. please let me know when I can get some of these shirts ASAP yes you should offer different colors. I was thinking about this technique months ago saying if there was polyester shirts with blank sublimatible areas on them that would be the greatest. If I knew how to do some I might would try some but you are much easier.

 

anybody know of any info on polyester shirts dyed black with a white blank box so you can sublimate in the blank area. this one person that does it said they hope to able to sell in us this summer. Just wondering if there was anybody else doing that and if there is a place to buy these shirts right now. and if they have different colors other than just black. I think that is a cool idea and want to buy some of these shirts.

 

sublimation can not be used on dark garment, because there's no white sublimation ink, just think about that all the colors are lighter than black color, they definitely can not be showed in black garment(actually there were in your garment, but because the black is too dark ,you can not see other colors with your eyes.)

 

Suggest you read the entire thread and understand the context before you say no.

Of course you cannot sublimate onto something black.

In this case there is a open white area custom made to a customers specification and the rest of the garment is black (or whatever color they wish).

 

Where can I get these dark polyester shirts with blank areas for sublimating. I heard about these last spring and never heard where since then is there a website I can visit to order these shirts. Thanks

 

Ran across this older thread and thought I would ask...are they here yet lol. This might be a game changer as far as being left out of the dark tshirt market. I guess my biggest worry going forward if available is quality of shirts and how would the black dye take the sublimation process. Any info much appreciated.

 

Hi
Can you please help us with your website. We are keen on buying some of these.

Also, have you developed any method to match the black colour we get in the print to the rest of the shirt?
Guess the colour configurations required to get the desired output would vary from printer to printer and also with the quality of the ink. How do we handle this? Any thoughts?

 

To be honest making a shirt like this would be pretty easy. It would cost around $8 to make here in the US so you have to ask the question why no one is doing it? First I think it is one of those things that seems to be better than the end results. The vast majority of people who would be the target market would be desktop users which typically means smaller presses (less than 30 x 40).

You really could not get a professional results for several reasons. first your black and the black in the shirt will most likely not match this even if you tried to fill in the black with a design you would still see the "box". Second you would really have to be careful and probably experiment a lot with temp/pressure as pressing a second time will most likely activate the original black. Last, is the cost to create such blanks. There clearly is not enough of a market to have mass qty done overseas thus are people willing to buy a $10-12 blank?

 

Know anyplace I can find it?