mix powder adhesive to the ink itself so that it will have extra strength to hold the foil..

 

I have the adhesive ink or paste or whatever you call it, it looks like white ink but it's just adhesive and it's clear. Will that work?

 

im not sure but im only using that adhesive on direct printing..dont know if it will work for transfers..why not just make a foil transfer instead of making plastisol transfer then pressing foil on it?just print that adhesive on the back of the foil sheet then cure it..then press it on the shirt whenever you'll be needing to..

 

Duh... I didn't know I could do that. Wow. That would make it so much easier. The foil won't melt during the cure process would it? I'll have to try that and see if that will work better. I was going to be doing it the hard way. See, that's what I like about this forum, there's always someone here who knows an easier way, a better way, and a right way of doing things. Thanks a million. I'm going to try your suggestion first thing in the morning.

How do I hold the foil onto the palet? I suppose I could use tape. I would think that sticky spray would ruin the foil. Something to sleep on...

 

How about printing plastisol on top of plastisol? I have a group wanting individual names added to a plastisol design.
Thanks!
Peachy

 

How about printing plastisol on top of plastisol? I have a group wanting individual names added to a plastisol design.
Thanks!
Peachy

I'm obviously not an expert on screen printing - more of a novice - but I would think all you would need would be additional screens (major pain) or plastisol letter transfers, or maybe even vinyl for the names?

 

you can print plastisol on top of plastisol as long as the plastisol at the bottom is not cured..if it is cured you might have problems regarding durability since the plastisol on top may not stick on the plastisol at the bottom..

 

Obviously I'm a noob - what do you mean by "cured"? I'll be ordering the plastisol transfers possibly ganged with individual names to place later.

Thanks so much!
Peachy

 

The vinyl should stick, at least to the fabric. You could make the design in such a way so that the names are in areas of fabric that don't have ink on them. Or are they insisting that the names overlay the design?

As far as the names sticking to the plastisol, it was stated that the ink had to not be cured. Curing is the process of drying the ink. You would do a gel cure (tacky but not wet) of the bottom layer and then put the names on and do the final cure of the ink - drying the ink. I would think that if you were going to have them gang printed and the applied with a heat press you would have to have partially cured ink otherwise the bottom layer of ink could smear? I don't know.

 

same here when i was just experimenting on transfers. i dont create another screens for testing it..just used what i already had. thou the prints is backward it was just a test print. glad to hear that it work out well on your part.

 

There is such a difference. I did 2 of them in a row so I could compare them. One I printed directly on the shirt and the other directly on the foil. Now granted there may be an off contact issue with one that was directly printed on because it was a sweat shirt so the material was thicker and closer to the screen than the foil was, but it had a really rough finish to it and the foil came out spotty.

The one on the foil had a smooth surface and the foil came out smooth and polished. But then I put that on a scrap t-shirt and not the sweatshirt. So I will have to experiment some more because when they will be made next year they will be put on black hooded sweatshirts.

Anyhow, thanks again. I would never have thought to put the adhesive directly onto the foil. Another plus is that you can see the adhesive on the foil. You can't see it on fabric because it's clear.

 

in my experience, its always easier to produce a smooth finish with transfers than direct printing because you are actually print on a flat surface..plus the pressing process also smooth-ens the print..
maybe you can post some video or pics on the step by step process you are doing so that others can learn easily..

here's a video of mine experimenting on transfer..unfortunately, my heat press got broken so i just tested it using household iron..enjoy!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7tu4YaMaRo[/media]

 

Was that just plain old ordinary copy paper used in that video?

 

yup..just plain paper you used for printing reports on..^_^

 

Are you talking about brochure paper? Or regular inkjet printer or copier paper? Brochure paper has a shiny surface where the copier paper does not. And I'm assuming by the video you did a cold peel rather than a hot peel.

When I got my transfer paper I had ordered the hot peel but they sent me the cold peel and it looked and felt just like normal printer/copier paper except it was 15" x 15". I paid around $80 for 500 sheets of it. It would be so much nicer to know I could just buy a box of copy paper from Office Max and that I'd get the same results. Yours looked like the split peel where part of the ink stays on the paper.

I'll have to try that with some experiments too.

 

normal paper like copier paper..its not a cold peel..its more of a warm peel..

read this thread: http://www.t-shirtforums.com/plastisol-transfers/t107388.html

 

Interesting I'll have to try it. That would certainly be cheaper than buying the plastisol transfer paper.