question about garment creator,

i have uploaded 3 images, 1=preview of setting for white ink only. 2=preview of white underbase for dark shirt setting
3= original image (random image from internet)

how can i get the the white layer quality like in image 1, for setting dark shirt.
it seems now i need to do print first with white ink setting , than resend the job as if printing on white shirt.

does garment creator have a setting where the underbase looks like the white ink only setting?

 

What you are explaining is currently the correct way to do this. EPSON had a beta of Garment Creator that would do what you are asking but it's my understanding they will not be releasing that one. There were issues with it they did not want to release but are aware of the need for this feature.

The only other way to do it without sending two prints is removing the black in Photoshop.

 

Thanks. Its needed indeed so I hope Epson will work on this. I find the output of garment creator better than apparel studio from cadlink ( sorry Dave). ( very grainy dot pattern VS smooth colors in garment creator)

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Has any one tried to make their own colour profiles for Garment creator ? I stated but need to try again. But Garment creator can easily import RGB profiles (I have tested some Adobe profiles).
I really love the program and the fact I can print directly from Illustrator on my MAC, but I do have some issues especially with the light green colors. And I DONT want to use RIP I want to get Garment creator to work and find a way eliminate dithered colors....

 

how do you print from illustrator to the rip, via the script file? gc_plugin_for_illustrator_v105

ctr+f12 and select script or should i copy the file to the adobe folder. i tried but doesnt work that way

 

yes, script.... you have to place the script in the right folders, there is one for Photoshop and one for Illustrator....they should NOT be placed in the plug-in folder but script folder, I had it wrong the first time..... when you use it it opens garment creator.....however, I don't think the script work when you print with white ink on dark, there you need to save it as a png file.

 

I use the scripts to send files directly to GC from Ai and Ps on my Mac. This process works fine for images onto dark garments as long as you remove the black background in Ai prior to sending.

When doing this in Ps and assuming your background contents in transparent, you first need to turn off the background layer, merge visible layers, command select on that merged layer, go to channels, create an alpha channel, then send to GC via the script. If you don't do this, even with a transparent background contents, you'll get a white background in GC.

 

@ JeridHill could you send me something or anything on how you made your prints come down to 2$ something using gc? And also how to set it? Thnx

 

Sorry, I had to go out of town unexpected. Send me one of your images as an example and I'll see what I could get it down to and tell you how I did it.

jhill@belquette.com

 

Mark,
You can control more with using 3rd RIP but not direct from Mac. I am sure you love you Mac and sure you have iPhone and iPad. Lol. Not hard to guess it.
You have many people to support you by another thread here.

 

You should be able to use Apple's Boot Camp application to run a PC based RIP on a Mac.

https://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

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There are a few options concerning running Windows based RIP's on a Mac I am looking into:

Boot Camp
Virtual Box
VMware Fusion
Parallels Desktop

Edit: I don't like the idea of having to reboot every time I want run Windows which is how Boot Camp operates. The other options will run simultaneously with OSX which will be better considering I will be working with Mac based Ai and Ps.

 

Well~ Mark
You are hardcore. I found many like you in art school. My website guys are same. My daughter in law(Artist) same. Perfectionist? Is there anything like perfect? Include diamond.
Use RIP is same as carpenter gets more tools. If carpenter hate to wear tool belt then what happen? Don't be a carpenter or carry by hand all the time. Carpenter has to deal with uncomfortable thing for better Results.
Cheers! RIPs are on me always.

 

Garment Creator - when saving files as a work data is it normal when you reopen the GCR file that the image has been resized smaller and is not the size that you originally used when you first printed and save the file? Right now every time i reopen the file and want to reprint need to resize as well. I'm using GC on a mac.

 

What version of GC are you using? I know this was an issue if the size of the file wasn't 360dpi, but I believe that was fixed.

 

Since this wasn't fixed yet, I'm sure it's still in the works from EPSON. I thought it had been fixed, but maybe it was on the PC side. Either way, they are aware of the issue and once it's fully addressed, an update will be on EPSON's site.

 

They are using the latest update, which is actually 1.1.10.030673. This is due to the fact the image is not 360 dpi (to match the print head resolution), again a known bug. I tested this on both Mac and PC, it appears the PC version is fixed, but the Mac version is not. The only current work around for the Mac is to save the file as a 360dpi file. When GC Work Data file is opened, it will be the correct size.

If your image was 180dpi and it was 10" left to right, when you save the file as a GC file and open it again, it will convert it to the proper size of 360dpi, making it 5" left to right (180dpi x 2 = 360), so it has to compensate for it according to print size and resolution.

 

I stand corrected, this is not working properly on the PC version either. I pulled a 360dpi file thinking it was 150dpi. I just recreated the test with a new file on GC for the PC and the same result, it resizes the image. Once again, I know EPSON is aware of the issue and is addressing it.

 

How about Alex's suggestion?

"You can also try creating a new Layout preset, so that GC no longer uses the Default settings when saving work data. With the image imported, sized, and position, go to the Layout section, click the 'plus' button at the bottom right to add a preset, and choose a name. Then try saving the file again. This should save the image with the new preset, and it will open using the same preset. After doing this one time, GC seems to start saving the image size along with the work data."

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It doesn't work. I didn't believe that would make a difference, but I tested it before I posted my above response to be sure. The general layout isn't the issue, it's the correlation between the desired dpi of 360 and the image size itself.

 

howz it going jerid? I was wondering if you could send me some presets that you feel would work best for black shirts and white shirts. I know it kind of depends on the design but im not sure what design i will be printing. So ball parking the presets would be fine.

 

It does depend on design and the shirt itself. What I found to work well in GC is:

Light Garments:
Resolution either Level 1 or Level 2 will work fine.
Ink Density: 20
Saturation: 5

Dark Garments:
Color: Level 1 or 2
White: Level 2
Ink Density Color: 15
Ink Density White: 100
Saturation: 5

Dark Gaments, when you need a bright white or colors:
Color: Level 1 or 2
White: Level 3
Ink Density Color: 15
Ink Density White: 10
Saturation: 5

 

Jeird, thhsnk you very much!

 

@JeridHill so what would i have to mess with to get the per print cost down but still get a good print?

 

Aloha Kakahiaka
3rd party RIP is the answer. 40% plus saving on White Ink. Zero black ink when you print dark(black). Money in your pocket.
Cheers! RIPs are on me always.

 

A RIP would help with less ink.

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I would like to help clarify the situation without trying to sell HawaiisFinest on a RIP. It's currently not in his budget and he would like to utilize GC to reduce the overall print cost. Any information to that end would be very beneficial to him and others that are not ready to spring for a RIP.

 

So if i just take the black out of my design when making the art work in Ai then there will be no need to mess with the settings?

 

Right. It does depend on the design, if there are solids, it will be cut and dry. If there are shadings of black, then in Photoshop you could select an area of black then click on the Select Menu then Similar. This will pull black throughout the design. You could also use the Select Color Range tool in the same area.

 

Can anyone explain how a rip is able to save you money in ink cost? I understand how it can produces better shades and smoke type of effects. But would you not need the same amount of ink overlay on your shirt to produce the same type of saturation etc on a tee?

 

GS lay down more ink than RIP. RIP find the place where white ink should be solid or less.
Epson does not have high light option yet. This is why smoke effect design looks different.
GC itself has excellent image than many other printers out there but you can enhance with RIP even better and save inks.
Cheers! RIPs are on me always.

 

I am very interested in this highlight white feature that I assume RIPs like Neo and DFA have. As a screen printer relatively new to DTG I'm hoping it is what I think it is. Here's an example of what I'm struggling with using Garment Creator. (See attached image).

To get a nice bold white in the text of a graphic like the one pictured, (and many similar designs incorporating bold white areas), I have to have the white setting in GC on 3. This creates a good bold white in such areas but makes the print very heavy and uses a lot of unnecessary white ink.

My question to you RIP sellers is does your RIP allow me to lay a thin base white down for the majority of the design, then another highlight white just for the white text, (or visible white areas), to make those white areas nice and bold? This is how I would normally screen print such designs.