Can you post the link for "free internet download" of the Workflow Software

 

I can see where the Epson wording was somewhat unclear. The Workflow Software is included when you purchase the printer - at no additional charge. You would actually get it by downloading it from the Epson site after the printer was paid for. It is not free software.

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Hi James, I wouldn't be able to do that, it would need to be with the purchase of a printer.

 

A cue epson has taken from brother is the possibility to export a printer especific job and save it to usb, so if you often print the same jobs you only have to plug your usb key and load that file to the printer without the need of a computer, or to place teh image again in the software.

The software will provably take care of most of the suers needs, but people used to job queuing, specific control of droplet size and ink density, will want a RIP eventually.Color reproduction is very good, but I have to be true, even the high end Epson printers always benefit from RIPs, this will too, since there are a few things a RIP could give you more control over. Although for the majority of users those options would only confuse things if embedded on the default workflow software.

I have to say Kudos to Epson for shipping a printer with a software solution, it is very practical and allows for software vendor independence.

 

At SGIA, they were not showing the software. They did print everything off the USB. The problem with that is, if there was something wrong on the processed file, it would always print out that way. Registration is always a concern, and I did see one image they were printing was misregistered. But another one was spot on with very tight registration.

As for the RIP, I'd agree. These types of printers will always benefit with more control that a RIP can provide. What they've done so far is pretty impressive, but one of the Epson guys continued to mention how they can't fade into black, and in this industry, it's a necessity!

 

As for the RIP, I'd agree. These types of printers will always benefit with more control that a RIP can provide. What they've done so far is pretty impressive, but one of the Epson guys continued to mention how they can't fade into black, and in this industry, it's a necessity!

Does that mean they may offer a RIP of their own when released in January?

 

It's not fading into black. They are working on it, and most likely the software not being finished is the reason for shipping in late January. I wouldn't get too worried at this point.

 

Hey Jerid,

When you say "prep" file to fade into black... can you give us some detail as to what you mean? (It's me, Clint)

 

Fading is more than feasible, just prepare the file accordingly before import.

 

Looks pretty good!

 

This i do not agree with.

Clients expect their images to be printed and to look as good as they can be.

This does require the printer to 'alter' the images because they should understand better than anybody else how their printer can best present the clients images.

 

With all my respect. IMO is
Most online business is Uploading image by Internet. Aren't you thinking about this business? We all do.
Some are doing high hundreds per day.
Can we do all that? Contact all uploaders? And send revised jobs until get approved?
How many of us can say "I am master of Photoshop"?
Very little.
Believe or not so many Picture requests are on shirts which requires Perfect Fading and colors.
Which will do this for you? RIP.
Cheers! Beers are on me always.

 

NOT MANY DTG owners are well trained on PhotoShop or Graphic software.

They should at least know a couple of tricks,and understand color profiles, If you are getting in to digital printing and leave the digital out, you might as well pick another hobby.

Also Rips are not the easiest pieces of software, so it's not like a RIP fits all the enviroments, and the better the RIP the more options it has, easier to get confused if you truly do not understand it.

That is why letting end users test the machine is a very good Idea, it only took me 5 minutes to print without the black channel, something Epson hadn't thought possible with their software, and the reason is we print everyday many different designs, and you gotta have digital kung fu, because clients sometimes bring the worst files and want the absolute best.

 

They should at least know a couple of tricks,and understand color profiles, If you are getting in to digital printing and leave the digital out, you might as well pick another hobby.


That is why letting end users test the machine is a very good Idea, it only took me 5 minutes to print without the black channel, something Epson hadn't thought possible with their software, and the reason is we print everyday many different designs, and you gotta have digital kung fu, because clients sometimes bring the worst files and want the absolute best.

Is your digital kung fu based in Photoshop? Or are there other digital martial arts I should pay attention to?

 

The problem is not with the DTG owner its with the customer supplied artwork! I have been shocked by what some people have brought in and asked me to print for them. Educating the customer is ESSENTIAL in this industry and the amount of time it can take versus the profit from the job can be a wash but the more educated they are the better in the long run.

I do agree that you need to have atleast a basic understanding of Photoshop or Corel before getting into this business.

 

Loloxa,
What kind of RIP are you using? If you do.

I don't use a RIP for my DTG solutions.

 

Now I do understand why you said "RIP is hard to use"
Brother and Epson have own driver.
Try any RIP you will get addicted at first click.
You can take my word to bank they will cash you in.
Once hooked you cannot imagine Print without RIP.
Cheers! Beers are on me always.
35000 feet above Lincoln NE where I landed first in USA.
PS:
Epson Dtg all same (no choice)
Rip all different (choice). Some dealer will sell at extra money some will give away but not with Epson package.
Price $300 to start ~ up to ????
Printing skill all different (your control)
Graphic skill (plus, but minimal still do same output with Pro at no prep). This is one of the reasons many people are not afraid of jump in DTG Without Master skill on graphic softwares.

 

Thread note: some off topic posts have been moved out of this thread.

 

Hello All,
I attended a demo for the Epson surecolour on Monday. I like the machine. I am currently running two CMYK only machines. Hence I have never worked with a white ink machine.
Please advise if it is possible to download a copy of the garment creator and play with it?
I understand there is no charge for it.
Thanking all in advance.

 

Epson SureColor F2000, Overview - Technical Support - Epson America, Inc., download it from here.

 

I am presuming this RIP only works on the f2000


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Created by Epson for the F2000.

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Jerid..what version of GC do you have? I've been playing with it for the past day and I can't get it to knock the black out like you showed with the watch image. Did you modify the image in PS or something prior to importing it into GC?

 

Eric, I have a version that is yet to be released.

 

Special treatment by Epson?
Does EPSON prejudice?
Do you have cousin work in Epson? Lol. Jk
So~ not released for what reason? Why? As you said if it is great and nice upgraded.
Not mature?
Epson doesn't want to see customer's relief sooner?
So if you only has this version what good is it for all of us? Except, complains will pileup to Epson. Not fair practice. I will suddenly claim complain first thing tomorrow morning.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.

 

Hi Jerid, does the new version of Garment Creator have any other improvements besides doing black knock outs?

 

For the most part. There are more controls for ink densities, etc, but the biggest change is the dropping of the black.

 

Beta testers come before dealers because plenty of dealers can't be trusted to report bugs.

 

I understand, but part of what was entrusted to me was feedback and report issues I'd find. I found bugs they weren't aware of and some they were. Even though we are resellers, I've been acting as a beta tester as well.

 

I meant no disparagement.

Being a beta tester and a reseller are definitely two different areas. Not all dealers should be beta testers. As someone who used to develop software, it's usually wise to have beta testers from every part of the product sale chain: resellers, tech support, end users, etc.

 

No worries, I wasn't taking it any other way. I appreciate your info and experience.

 

I just got the new Garment Creator v1.8 - Still can't beat the NeoRIP!! Crappy cell phone doesn't show the vibrancy difference but look at how GC handles color fading out into the shirt compared to NeoRIP.

 

So does Eric is on "Be aware Lists"?
Sounds like Wanted.
He is one of most straight fellows I know.

 

Good post is the cost from the GC calculator or based on weighing before/after then calculating per cc of ink?
Thanks for the post

 

Garment Creator has a built in cost estimator.

 

Eric, even though this is an update to the software, it's still not the update I've been talking about. It's slated to be released by the end of May (assuming all goes well). There are ways to use the same version of GC you have to print it much like the other, with the fade etc, it's just not automatic. And yes, I know the RIP can do it automatically, etc etc., so will the newest version of GC when it's released. (A little preemptive commenting in a friendly kind of way).

 

Tomorrow is tomorrow. Not sudden, no one knows is tomorrow. Do you? If so buy lottery ticket.
I hope you will not say Tomorrow again when tomorrow is arrived. Does Tomorrow ever arrived? Confuse~.
Cheers! Rips are on me always.