Thanks to jean518 for inspiring this new concept from something in one of the tests. It gave me the idea, when applied over a seam and what it did to the finish.

So, onto the brainstorming...

The finish of the CCH2O application is impacted by pressure. What if we purposely created void areas of pressure??? We tried it, by taking a weeding tool to our print perfect pad and destroying it in a raking and ripping motion...

Then we placed the pad directly under our CCH2O design before pressing, the result was a distressed effect that was directly impacted by the void areas dug out of the pad!!! Pretty cool.

I imagine you can do more unique things be messing with pressure underneath the shirt.

See photos of the pad and the print combined with our Pebble Puff material.

 

WOW that is sooooo Awesome. It looks so similar to screen print-so now us heat printer people can get a whole new look!!!!!! Great brainstorming

 

I had been thinking about this concept for a while...."What textures could be placed under the shirt to create new H2O finishes?" I was thinking something rough like a roofing shingle, or even lasering patterns onto balsa wood, or something like that. Of course we'd have to use items that could withstand the heat. I definitely think there is potential for many more unique looks!

 

I know, my mind is racing right now...does anyone have a sandblast rhinestone template material to see if you can cut a distressed pattern and use this beneath the shirt instead of using an entire pad? Not sure if it will be thick enough or not to create the void in pressure...

 

Is the perfect pad usable on both sides? so you could destroy one side and still use the other side as flat. Silly question, but I don't have a perfect pad. The distressed look looks great! I have another idea in mind to try a distressed look and will post after I try it. I will be trying mine soon (I received black)

 

Yes, its usable on both sides, however destroying one side may impact the pressure on the other side, not sure...you may want to distress both sides with different patterns. Looking forward to your idea!

 

I have some sandblast material but not sure it will take the heat. I'll try it, though. Another thought would be to use mouse pads, especially the kind that can be sublimated as they are made to take the heat.

All this does get the creative juices flowing.

 

Very cool look.

 

As you can imagine lots of folks within our organization are trying this technique out. One of our sales reps Jaime Flores realized that you can reuse a piece a few times and get a more washed effect with each application. Attached are photos of his t-shirt, the front was the original wash and then the back placement was the design cut apart and pressed again at the same settings. Could make for unique prints and best of all no additional costs in material for each print, just more money if you charge your customer Thanks Jaime!

 

Nice effect and easy to do, like it.

 

Glad you are having fun with this idea. There are so many ideas in my head that I am having trouble concentrating on anything else. I guess what drove this is the fact that so much material was still on the carrier and the "what happens if I do this?" syndrome that I seem to be afflicted with sometimes.

 

I found out you can use squeegies, and old ink pens to get different kinds of lines.. think I will be trying wire tomorrow.

Glad you are having fun with this idea. There are so many ideas in my head that I am having trouble concentrating on anything else. I guess what drove this is the fact that so much material was still on the carrier and the "what happens if I do this?" syndrome that I seem to be afflicted with sometimes.

 

I'm thinking out loud here but this reusing of the "carrier" might also be applied to sublimation. I have noticed that there is remaining ink on the carrier whenever I have sublimated but I have never tried to use it again.

Curious

 

Interesting idea. Show us something.

 

Is there a list of which Super Film colors are CCH2O compatible?

 

Yes, in the description on this page: CAD-CUT® Super Film™ Heat Transfer Material | Stahls’ ID

Please watch the videos linked on the page for an explanation on how the garment color impacts the finish.

 

ill list some cool things i think would be amhazing!
Ductape...
Playdoh?
Legos!!!!
one of those things you put your hand in and it makes an outline of it.. (might melt)
Those patteren sheets they use for concrete?
Brass stenciles?
Foam letters?
string?
Ill post more when i can think straight


Alright well... what if you cut an intentional design into a carrier like say A word... would it be slightly darker or lighter were the word is cut out under the shirt?
By the way i successfully did a four seprate pressings from one sheet on my small heat press 12x12

 

Haven't had a chance to cut my test sample yet, but wondered if anyone has laundered anything yet to see how it holds up.
Curious to see how the 2nd, 3rd, etc pressings hold up. Is there enough adhesive on them to last through washing, or will the pigment wash away?
I will definitely do some wash tests. Now what to cut?

 

I'm doing laundry today and will throw my test piece in and see what happens.

 

Not sure where this question belongs...

As I play with this stuff, why wouldn't I make it my primary heat press material?

1. Perhaps because it's harder to weed fine detail?
2. Are there limitations to what kind of garment (cotton, polyester, blend) it can print on over other materials?
3. Are there more delicate care issues than other materials? I know it needs to be cold washed the first time. How about EVERY time after doing one of the CCH20 techniques?
4. Price?

What are the pros and cons of the material over other choices? I'm really digging the light weight feel and other than the fine detail weeding problems I'm having (material rips in small areas), I can see this being an excellent general purpose, light weight material that gives me the option to do water based screen printing like results.

What am I missing? What could dash my hopes?

 

To me, the biggest initial drawback is the problem of color...by this I mean what color will I get if I use Superfilm Color X on shirt color Y. Because you're getting only the backing color, and it is so thin, the shirt color plays a very large part in the equation to get the final result. So, it's quite difficult to be able to tell a customer what the final result would look like at this point.

I know that Josh and Stahls are working on a bunch of samples of all the colors on different shirts...hopefully this will really help. I would say that we'll probably need to do at least a white shirt and a black shirt with test prints in all colors to have in the showroom as a sample.

Other than this, I have found the technique to be very promising. I've done a handful of different shirts/designs, and have been extremely happy with the results!

 

What color works good on black shirts ?
does the silver and gold show up good ?

Thanks
Mark

 

In case you missed it, Nick posted photos of how different CCH2O colors look on different garment colors here: http://www.t-shirtforums.com/cad-cut-h2o-beta-innovation/t132302.html

 

Playing with the H2O on the Super film we've got two things to share. With the pink shirt we used crumpled up aluminum foil under the shirt. With the blue shirt we took some used vinyl backing and sandwitched some thin cotton string (about 1/16" or so thick). The only issue we had with either was a "burn" mark where the high points were. It was much more pronounced on the one with the string technique. We used the same thing we use on our embroidery to get rid of hoop burn - spray on sizing like you use for ironing cloths. Worked like a charm.

Next I want to try making up some patterns on the embroidery machine and pressing them under the shirt.

Mike

 

Thanks for posting these, they are fun. I've been thinking along the same lines but haven't had a chance to try them yet. Good to know about the sizing spray for inadvertent burn marks.

 

@sewon[/USER]lisa;874703] We used the same thing we use on our embroidery to get rid of hoop burn - spray on sizing like you use for ironing cloths. Worked like a charm.

Mike

Hi Mike, can you tell me where I can purchase the sizing spray? Preferrably a link in Australia?
Thanks so much!

 

I think we use Magic Sizing Clothing, Toys, Electronics, Jewelry, Jaclyn Smith - Kmart.com

We can buy it here at Wal Mart or Kmart. It is a very common product. I would do a google search on "magic spray sizing" and I would think you should be able to find it locally. It should be right next to the spray startch in your local market.

Hope this helps,
Mike

 

It is normally in with spray starch which is normally located with laundry products. It says sizing on the can.