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Buying an Epson 7710 "Off The Shelf" question

3K views 21 replies 10 participants last post by  mgparrish  
#1 ·
Hi Everyone,

I am purchasing all my Dye Sub equipment over the weekend but I have a question about the printer.

Can a guy just purchase a printer "off the shelf" like an Epson 7710 and use it for dye sub? I know I need the dye sub inks which I plan on purchasing separately from Cobra (refill carts).

Or are the printers "modified" to specifically handle dye sub inks in some way?

Thanks in advance for your help... I searched this forum for an answer but could not come up with any info.

Thanks!
 
#2 ·
nothing special needs to be done to the printer,
just make sure you don't allow epson to upgrade the firmware
use windows firewall to add a new rule to block all incoming and outgoing epson internet connections

put the original carts in to start and do a few cleanings,
then put in the dyesub carts and a couple of head cleanings should prime the lines with the dyesub ink
do some print and press trials to further ensure you are up and running with the dyseub ink

leave your printer on all the time and it will go to sleep when not in use
then upon awakening it won't run through the whole startup procedure again (wasting ink and possibly 'unrecognized carts')

make sure you use the icc profiles cobra has (although someone said the new cobra inks don't need them???),
and make sure to get the 'xl' carts
 
#17 ·
Hi Edward,
I'm conflicted now. I've read Not to Put in the Original Carts that come with the Epson, and now Yes to install the originals first, then switch to the dye-sub carts/inks. Not to put them in was because getting the 2 differing inks mixed at all will cause the sub ink to gel up. But also told the original carts are needed first to get the Epson up and running correctly. Can you explain further??
 
#4 ·
post back if you need help with the icc's
if you are running windows you should be able to just unzip it and double-click the individual icc's to install,
or simply copy and paste into: computer-local disk c:-windows-system32-spool-drivers-color

then let your graphics program color manage, choose the icc,
and turn it off in the actual epson settings
 
#15 ·
Due to the lower cost of desktop printers most do not really maintain them like a wide format printer that will run you $7K plus. The other consideration that is more important on wide format is the ink itself, Not all ink is created equal and the "particle" size will have an impact on the head. MGparrish could most likely address the particle size issue as I believe ink manufactures measure in microns. Other things that make a big difference in the environment, especially humidity.
 
#16 ·
I wasn't sure on the particle size just knew the droplets can be in "picoliters". Curious about the particle and found this from Epson

https://global.epson.com/innovation/core_technology/inkjet/micro_piezo.htm"

"The thin-film piezoelectric actuators, which act as pumps that fire droplets of ink, are a mere 1 micron thick"

so you were correct ....

Then if the actuators are in the 1 micron it should follow the particles are even smaller since they gotta fit thru. Sub-micron.

Humidity matters and as well as how frequent the printer is used.

I'm not clear if the actual colors inherently are variant in particle size from color to color, figure it's possible.

Over the years seems I have seen on occasion more incidence of cyan needing attention than the other colors.