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when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

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Old February 14th, 2011 Feb 14, 2011 6:35:56 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

mga bro help po... nagkaroon ako ng parang kontrata sa pag print ng t-shirt for reunion. the problem is about the ordinary ink that i used kaya hindi natuloy coz they didn't like the sample that i presented to them despite of the good design. ang alam ko lang ordinary ink lang (classic tulco).any advice how to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc.. and anu ang magandang combination sa kanila? ty po in advanz mga masters.....
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

The tulco classic ink is a low end ink for white garments. Usually the color is matte or flat but it has soft hand.

Ano ang hindi nila nagustuhan? Rubberized inks will give a better color and a thicker coat. Some people equate a thicker coat as a better and more expensive print. The opaque, wetlook and emboss are rubberize inks.

The traditional method is to use superwhite + wetlook for underbase if printing on black shirts. Top coats are superwhite + wetlook + pigment. For more info https://www.t-shirtforums.com/asia/t89055.html



 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

@ bro james: salamat sa reply mo. they didn't like the inks that i used coz it was only tulco classic. kaya i'll try these opaque, wetlook, rubberize type of ink. malaking tulong ang link sa reply mo. ty. godbless!
 
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

Superwhite and wetlook lang. Kalimutan mo muna yung opaque at panpagulo lang iyan. Siguraduhin mo lang parehong series. RC series local. SH series imported. Pero mix mo yung dalawa. Magkaibang inks kasi ang superwhite at wetlook at di mo pwede ipatong unless mix mo sila(like yung underbase).

Pwede rin JJVirgo superwhite and wetlook.



 
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@ bro james: mali pala ako. bumili ako ng superwhite & golden yellow na wetlook kahapon. hindi pala pwedeng ipatong wetlook... anung pwedeng i substitue sa wetlook sir james? g. yellow na opaque or classic tulco na lang? kasi gusto ko ng magandang output. balak ko rin mag test print ngayon.... tia
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

isa pa sir james censya na di ko ma gets kasi ung formula na superwhite+wetlook+pigment. since di pedeng ipatong and wetlook sa superwhite ibg sabihin sa container sila dapat i mix. tapos pngatlo ung pangkulay/pigment mix rin sa container. correct me if am wrong sir, yong superwhite at wetlook ay tulad ng Extender na pedeng ihalo sa kahit anung kulay? godbless po sir!
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

Stick to superwhite at wetlook lang muna.

Tandaan mo lang na magkaiba ang SH(imported) at RC(local) series nila. Ang superwhite at wetlook, kahit na same series sila ay magkaibang ang formulation, kaya hindi laging compatible o hindi lagi pwedeng ipatong. Kaya ituring mo rin na magkaibang inks sila. Pero kung yung superwhite ay hinaluan mo ng wetlook ay parang ibang ink or ibang formulation na rin siya. Ganun din kung hinaluan mo ng superwhite ang wetlook ink mo pang top coats. Kaya kung may superwhite ang wetlook colored inks mo, pwede ipatong sa superwhite mo na may wetlook kasi parang same ink na sila na may different propertions lang ng sw at wl.

Kalimutan mo muna opaque lalo na ang classic.

Hindi ko alam kung yung ready mix na wetlook, kung hhahaluan ng superwhite, ay pwede sa superwhite + wetlook na underbase.

Ganun gawin mo.

For underbase yung 1 kg superwhite haluan mo ng 1/4 kg wetlook.

For mixing base(para sa mga top coat) yung 1 kg na wetlook naman haluan mo ng 1/4 kg superwhite. Tapos add mo pigment + fixer. Kung ayaw mo ng makintab damihan mo ang superwhite. Kung light colored inks pwede rin dagdagan na superwhite. Kung dark colored inks pwede mag add ng wetlook. Sa dark inks minsan hindi lang sa pwede pero mas maganda kung add ka pa ng konting wetlook. I-experiment mo ang mix ratio ng paunti unti .Pwede ito na rin ang underbase mo pero add ka pa ng superwhite depende sa color ng shirt. Siguro mga 2 part nitong mix + 1 part superwhite.

Try mo at iba't ibang proportion ng superwhite + wetlook at may kanya kanyang preference din kasi. Search mo rin thread na "ink mixture".




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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

@BRo james:sir tanx successful ang prints ko dahil sa mga tips mo... maraming salamat po. sa ngaun nag try ako ng c-m-y-k. mukha ng tao...hehe parang pangit na painting ang kinalabasan. ano po bang ang unang kulay ang dapat i print? sundin ko po ba ang cmyk? which means i'll print first cyan, then magenta, followed by yellow and last ung black? tapos dapat bang i dry muna ang bawat kulay before printing another color? tia po and gobless uli sau.....
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

Sa CMYK, sa iba YMCK.(Tandaan mo lang CMY na binaliktad ang sequence). Pero may nagsasuggest din na dominant color at black ang last. Hindi ako nagc-CMYK gaano pero minsan trial and error na rin. Kung pangit ang print, ibahin ang sequence sa sunod na shirt.

Wet on wet usually ang CMYK pero may nagflaflash yata in between colors.



 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

i see. cge po try ko sinabi mo.... salamat uli. isa pa po sir, kumakapit ba ung tulco classic sa base na Ecco superwhite?
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

try mo din hanapin ang owners manual ng t-sep at quiksep at free download naman iyan. May discussion din sila sa simulated at CMYK process kasama na recommended screen angles. May iba pang information na applicable sa screen printing in general.

try mo download manual ng t-sep dito Software Downloads |
Eto sa quiksep http://www.quikseps.com/d/QuikSeps_Pro_Manual.pdf

Kahit hindi mo gamitin software nila may mga tiops dyan.




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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

Good Evening po!

Ask ko lang po help process ng pagtatak ng TULCO EMBOSS paint... white and red po ang itatak ko sa isang dark color shirt... ano po ba yung mga kailangan na steps dun.. TY po..
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

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The tulco classic ink is a low end ink for white garments. Usually the color is matte or flat but it has soft hand.

Ano ang hindi nila nagustuhan? Rubberized inks will give a better color and a thicker coat. Some people equate a thicker coat as a better and more expensive print. The opaque, wetlook and emboss are rubberize inks.

The traditional method is to use superwhite + wetlook for underbase if printing on black shirts. Top coats are superwhite + wetlook + pigment. For more info https://www.t-shirtforums.com/asia/t89055.html

helo po sir..just wanna have ur idea if ok lang bah superwhite at pigment lang...walang wetlook at d lagyan ng fixer?..thanks in advance....
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

Hello,

How do you print black ink on white under base?
It bleeds bad.
Need Help...

Thanks
 
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Default Re: when to use opaque, rubberize, wetlook, emboss, etc

hello po ask ko lang po kung pano gawin ung wet on wet? JJ virgo po gamit ko eh., pag nagprint ako una white tapos papatong ko na ung 2nd color eh sumasama sa screen ung ink nung nauna tapos smeared na itsura., ngsearch na po ako la ako makita kung panu mag wet on wet., thanks in advance!
 






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