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can anyone help? im a newbie to heat transfer. ive been printing using traditional silk screen methods and i want to do something new and much easier. i was given an epson1400 and now im trying to figure out how to set up to transfer to shirts. ive been reading many many threads and everyone has different opinions and im getting confused. heres my questions

what is a good reliable ink to use for transfer?
what is a good paper to use for lights and darks?
is there a dummy book for me? lol

any info would be great. specially cause i dont know what im doing
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can anyone help? im a newbie to heat transfer. ive been printing using traditional silk screen methods and i want to do something new and much easier. i was given an epson1400 and now im trying to figure out how to set up to transfer to shirts. ive been reading many many threads and everyone has different opinions and im getting confused. heres my questions

what is a good reliable ink to use for transfer?
what is a good paper to use for lights and darks?
is there a dummy book for me? lol

any info would be great. specially cause i dont know what im doing
thanks
IMO the epson durabrite inks do well, I have also heard real good things about heat transfer inks. Real good transfer paper hmmm well IMO for light colored garments there is only one and that is jetprosofstretch. Dark colored garments would be jetwear transfer paper. As for the dummy book LOL I have never seen one but this forum is an excellent place to find information and ask questions :D. So, kind of an interactive book with my good sources. I hope this helps.
 

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Since the ink for the 1400 is not pigment ink...but Claria ink which is listed as water resistant...some members...I think Kelly...has used this printer/ink with Jetpro soft stretch and reports good luck...I think she posted some photos..you might want to do a search for 'claria ink' and check it out.

Maybe Kelly will chimes in....or was it BobbieLee...I always get pretty ladies mixed up! :)
 

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IMO the epson durabrite inks do well, I have also heard real good things about heat transfer inks. Real good transfer paper hmmm well IMO for light colored garments there is only one and that is jetprosofstretch. Dark colored garments would be jetwear transfer paper. As for the dummy book LOL I have never seen one but this forum is an excellent place to find information and ask questions :D. So, kind of an interactive book with my good sources. I hope this helps.
thank you very much. very helpful. any recommendations on a maker of ht inks.
 

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Hi Brandon, I sent you a return PM, I hope you got to see it before coming here, so you know why I'm going to chat with you on the boards. :)

I read all of your back posts, and I have a few questions for you. You said you wanted to do dye sublimination, have you changed your mind on that? Also, you said in pm you already have a CIS, did that come with the printer? Has the CIS been used and is there ink in it already, or is it a brand new one? If it didn't come with the printer, where did you buy it?

Here is a link that may help you regarding the printing methods and what you want to do:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/general-t-shirt-selling-discussion/t48532.html#post286215



PS: Charles, you are a gentleman!:) Have a nice day. :)
 

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Hi Brandon, I sent you a return PM, I hope you got to see it before coming here, so you know why I'm going to chat with you on the boards. :)

I read all of your back posts, and I have a few questions for you. You said you wanted to do dye sublimination, have you changed your mind on that? Also, you said in pm you already have a CIS, did that come with the printer? Has the CIS been used and is there ink in it already, or is it a brand new one? If it didn't come with the printer, where did you buy it?

Here is a link that may help you regarding the printing methods and what you want to do:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/general-t-shirt-selling-discussion/t48532.html#post286215



PS: Charles, you are a gentleman!:) Have a nice day. :)
hi kelly thanks forgetting back,
i was looking into dye sublimation but a friend told me that heat transfers were easier. im still trying to decide but i like to have all info before i make a decision. i was given the epson 1400 semi new for free and was misinformed when i received it today. i thought i was getting a cis with it but i was mistaken and didnt. so if i go this route i will have to buy a cis, any recommendations. im still searching differences between ht and sublimation. i really want to print on darks and lights and am looking for something new and affordable that has amazing details for some of my graphics. ive read many threads and lots of people are using ht pigments,durabrite,and etc... but others have had problems. any start up advice on the way i should go with inks and papers
 

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Hi Brandon, read that link I gave you. Inside that link is another link to a thread on the pros and cons of each printing method. You will learn alot by doing this.

To put photos and high detail onto shirts you can you inkjet HT, laser transfers, dye sub or DTG.

As you know, DTG is expensive to buy.

Dye sub only works on polyester shirts (not highly favored over cotton shirts by customers, and they are more costly then cotton). Dye sub ink is very expensive.

Then there is laser transfers. I was told there is a paper that can do dark shirts, but what folks said was that it is costly and tempermental to work with. I linked that thread discussing this laser paper for darks to the printing methods and quality thread above.

If you read that thread, you will find out alot about the processes.

Last but not least is the inkjet HT. This is the cheapest to get into, and probably the cheapest to produce overall.

Yes, if you use the 1400 you can use "re-fill carts" or "bulk inks". I hear great things about the inks from "inkjetcarts.us", then there is "shopdyesub.com", and now "Leo from inkjetfly" has come out with a reformulated "pigment ink" CIS that he made a custom "color profile" for the "JPSS" (jetprosofstretch) paper. If you search for this thread "Ivancuriel inkjetfly 1400" you will find a thread testing these inks. Ivan is a great guy that tests alot of the inks for the 1400 printer.

"Durabrite" ink is a pigment ink that comes in the c88,c88+,c120 and it can "color shift". I use Durabrite and it's does not color shift on me.

"Claria" comes in the 1400 and most folks have great success with it.

If you are going with a refill cart or bulk ink system, none of that will matter because you won't be using and Epson ink anyway, you'll be using the 3rd party generic ink from whomever sells you the refill carts or bulk ink system.

Buy your ink and system at the same place so you have one person to deal with when setting up. It makes things alot easier than ink from one and system from another, then you'll be stuck between the two, and set up can be difficult sometimes. Once you get past the set up, most folks seem quite happy and content with their ink systems. The ones I am referring to are happy customers of the above websites.

Dye sub and inkjet heat transfer are really so different. You'll need to decide if you want to sell polyester shirts or cotton shirts. If you know you want cotton, you are really down to laser and inkjet. Laser transfers offers a nice paper called "image clip" for lights, it is a two step process but it leaves barely to no window on the shirt. The drawback is that paper for darks with laser. Read that link on it in the thread above. The link is in the last few pages.

Inkjet has a paper for light/white shirts that is amazing: Jetprosofstretch also called JPSS here. LOok it up, you'll see the feedback. Papers for darks haven't come as far yet... they still have a heavier hand (feel on the front of the shirt) but otherwise, there are a few favorite papers here, "Ironall Dark" and "Jet Wear", that folks really like... color fast and don't crack. Nice qualities.

Hope this helps. To make it easier for you to find out more info on anything I've talked about, I ""quoted"" good search terms that will help you with that. :)
 

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You're welcome, Brandon... when you finalize which ink and print method you want to use, let me know... and if it's inkjet, I can point you to some really great threads that explain that process and it's products alot more. :)

Have a nice weekend. :)
 

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You're welcome, Brandon... when you finalize which ink and print method you want to use, let me know... and if it's inkjet, I can point you to some really great threads that explain that process and it's products alot more. :)

Have a nice weekend. :)
hi kelly, after much research and reading many threads im gonna go with inkjet. now im trying to figure out a good ink and a cis. i think ht ink looks very good but im also wondering about durabrite etc.... any threads you could provide would be helpful. i am going with jpss papers. do i need a rip system or just a profile for the ink. i would like to print vibrant color designs and so forth. and also print on darks.

i just wanted to say thankyou to you and everyelse on the forum for their great threads. i didnt know anything but now i feel i have a handle on this.

you have a great weekend too!
 

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Hey Brandon... :)

Yeah, this forum is great! So much great info, and some many folks willing to help out, it always amazes me, and I'm really happy to be a part of all of this.

I have some great threads for you on inkjet, ink, and jpss.

One of the things you don't have to worry about is Durabrite. Unless you plan to purchase another Epson printer that takes the Durabrite carts. The 1400 does not run Durabrite ink in it. The Epson ink that the 1400 uses is Claria ink. The low down on Durabrite is the colors can shift under the heat of the press. It will *print* perfectly, but once you add the heat during pressing, when you peel the papers, the black may turn olive... or blues to purple... and other *funny* things. Not everyone experiences color shifting with Durabrite. I'm one who does not. I did have to *turn down* the yellow. Most people have to manually adjust the color settings to magenta +5, cyan +5 and yellow -10 to -20, depending on how 'warm' you want the image.
Here's a thread on color shifting with Durabrite, you will find many if you search "durabrite color shift":
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/heat-press-heat-transfers/t39125.html

Here's another post on inks for the inkjet heat transfer process:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/heat-press-heat-transfers/t59987.html#post356402


I know of a member here named Ashamutt. She was just telling me she runs the ink from inkjetcarts.us in her 1400... she said she absolutely loves those inks. So there is that recommendation. Then there is also this thread:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/heat-press-heat-transfers/t60578.html#post359453

There are a few leads for ink in that thread. Feel free to join in that conversation with anyone in there if you have questions on someone's ink.

You mentioned wanting to print vibrant images. One thing I want to mention with JPSS is that it doesn't *look* very vibrant when it is printed, it worried me when I first saw it, but it *is* vibrant when it presses, so no worries if you notice it looks dullish just after printing. Tis normal.

Here are examples of JPSS printed with regular dye (only JPSS holds up with regular dye, no other papers that we know of can handle dye like this one) and then another shirt printed with Durabrite, and then bleached... this really shows the fine qualities of this paper for colorfastness:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/heat-press-heat-transfers/t47868.html

For when the time comes that you have the paper, ink, shirt and press at hand, here is a post on how to heat press step by step, and the *why's*:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/inkjet-heat-transfer-paper/t39007.html#post229735

Let me know where you are at after those links... maybe some you've seen before, maybe some are new. :)
 
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