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Trying to compare DTG machines and am really confussed. We are in a small town and have request for 1- 12 shirts each run mostly. Have been farming out screen printing but for larger orders. Wondering if DTG machine would be any benefit to us. :confused:
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Trying to compare DTG machines and am really confussed. We are in a small town and have request for 1- 12 shirts each run mostly. Have been farming out screen printing but for larger orders. Wondering if DTG machine would be any benefit to us. :confused:
How often are these small runs? If you do not have the business to be printing every day, it might not be worth purchasing. Have you considered contracting out to a DTG printer?
they all suck. you can get maybe 50 shirts a day (front and back print) out of them on lights and far less for darks. t-shirt printing is a very low margin product anyway and unless you are doing it to pick up other business then it just isn't worth it.
they all suck.
who is they all suck?? DTG printers???

huh?? think again

I love my machine I get at least 75-85 shirts darks a day out of my machine and its DTG Kiosk 2

I could proly get more if it printed faster but its just a slow process with pretreat..

if you are getting daily 1-12 print orders a DTG would work best for you and also your business would pick up because you can offer more colors.
For another Choice that you can make decision about with your investment; Pls looking for Kornit :)
they all suck. you can get maybe 50 shirts a day (front and back print) out of them on lights and far less for darks. t-shirt printing is a very low margin product anyway and unless you are doing it to pick up other business then it just isn't worth it.
Wow, sounds like you must have gotten burned somewhere along the way.

(On our machine and....) With one heat press, a left chest print would yield 50 shirts an hour and a 10"x12" design would yield about the same. So you could do front and back like this with light garments at about 25 shirts an hour. Add a heat press, and those numbers go up quite a bit. Even on a left chest, double pass, it's less than 30 seconds, the heat press is the hold up. So to say 50 shirts a day front and back isn't exactly accurate. Maybe it's accurate for the earlier TJet series, but not for a handful of the newer machines available.

On a black Tshirt the left chest would still be under a minute and the back would definitely be under 3. We are debuting a machine in October at SGIA that did a 9"x9" image on black in 1 minute and 18 seconds.

As for tshirt margins, I imagine if you sell them for $5, there's no margin, but most people put value in their products. I had someone local want 2 black tshirts with a left chest design only. I told him $15 each and he then ordered 5. With the redraw of the logo (about 5 minutes), pretreat (2 minutes), ripping, printing and curing (about 7-8 minutes, when combined, it took about 15 minutes for this job). If my costs associated were $5 each shirt (shirt, pretreat, printing, wages, electricity), that's $10 profit or $50 x 4 or $200 an hour.

Not so sure what's low profit margins about that?
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Trying to compare DTG machines and am really confussed. We are in a small town and have request for 1- 12 shirts each run mostly. Have been farming out screen printing but for larger orders. Wondering if DTG machine would be any benefit to us. :confused:
On the average, how many shirts do you print in a week or if it's easier, a month?
I could proly get more if it printed faster but its just a slow process with pretreat..
The pretreat process can be much quicker. It takes 15 seconds for me to pretreat a shirt and about 10 seconds to press, and that's getting all the moisture out. Of course you can be pressing shirts in between prints or with a separate press.

It's a process I stumbled across and have been testing. So far, all my testing has been working rather well and I'm trying to refrain from sharing until I know 100% no issues entail. It appears that is the case, but I need feedback, etc on some wash tests, etc. as well as finalizing some of my own.
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we must talk some day...

PM your number I have couple of other questions for you..
Trying to compare DTG machines and am really confussed. We are in a small town and have request for 1- 12 shirts each run mostly. Have been farming out screen printing but for larger orders. Wondering if DTG machine would be any benefit to us. :confused:
If you have the market/customers/orders to justify getting into DTG printing you should......

1 Read, read, read.....inform yourself about the ins and outs of the process.

2 Request samples from the different DTG companies, do wash tests, make your comparisons.

3 Talk to users of DTG machines, ask about problems, maintenance, tech support, warranty.

4 Talk to distributors and double check what they tell you about their machines by talking to users of their printers.

5 Read, read, read more here on TSF about any printer you might be considering, ask lots of questions.

6 If you buy....be prepared to get training, you'll need it to be successful.

7 Don't be swayed by hype.....while DTG printing isn't hard to learn you will have problems, you will waste ink, you will ruin shirts...it's part of the learning curve.

There are many many more, but I'd think you get the point.

This thread may also help you....

http://www.t-shirtforums.com/direct-garment-dtg-inkjet-printing/t41520.html

Hope this helps.
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we must talk some day...

PM your number I have couple of other questions for you..
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email me.. [email protected]... you email pat he doesn't answer his emails..

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No that's funny, what do you say about this Pat :D
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haha.. pat doesn't read these anymore .. his choice words would be banned I have since taken over.. hahaha (evil laugh)
Pat told me he was the cooler one :p

I know it's a big investment, but a conveyor dryer should be on everyones list to buy.

For pre-treating, simply spray the shirt like normal, then run it through your dryer. Do a quick 10-12 second firm press and you have a nice pre-treated shirt that prints great with no weird stains on it and barely a noticeable box from the press.

Then obviously the Dryer saves you tons of time while printing if you don't need to press them to dry them. There is also a slight noticeable difference with vibrancy running them through the dryer rather than pressing them.
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