Which Adobe software?

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wmth99

Discussion Starter · May 24, 2018

I’m new to the T-shirt biz. I’m planning on using one of those T-shirt fulfillment companies, (at least for now). As for the graphic designs, I know there are a lot of good graphic art design software programs out there, I was planning on using Adobe but not sure if I should use Photoshop or Illustrator (or other) as I want to be able to make more complex and sophisticated type of designs.

Also, is there a template or something that’s specifically for T-shirts that help with dimensions or size, etc? Thanks.

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AdvancedArtist

· #2 · May 25, 2018

I would under no circumstances use Adobe for apparel design or graphics. Corel is the only legit solution in this industry. IMHO and I can crush Adobe with it.

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webtrekker

· #3 · May 25, 2018

AdvancedArtist said:
I would under no circumstances use Adobe for apparel design or graphics. Corel is the only legit solution in this industry. IMHO and I can crush Adobe with it.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement.

In what ways will Coreldraw 'crush' the likes of Photoshop and Illustrator? I'm curious!

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dcbevins

· #4 · May 25, 2018

I agree that crush is somewhat sweeping. I would say Corel wins in some circumstances. The thing I find with Corel products is they are faster. You get common things done faster. For some high deadline environments, that wins. If your art is mostly for in house use this is very beneficial. In environments where you are trading files with other organizations, Adobe's strangle hold on many design users is enough that you probably want to use their tools to stay compatible. Corel doesn't get much respect in those circles. Can I prove Corel is faster? No, I just have my own experience and lots of anecdotal evidence. This too is mostly in Draw vs Illustrator.

So I can't fault anyone going Adobe. It is practical in many situations. As to which Adobe products you should use I would say you need a raster and a vector solution. You want Photoshop and Illustrator. One of Illustrators best features is Photoshop. If you must chose one, I would be inclined to say go vector and use Illustrator. Vector isn't always for the faint of heart. But it has more long term benefits to invest your time in it's use. Photoshop though is a valid choice for many situations. Corel vs Adobe has been beaten half to death. But we all can't resist chimming in.

I feel CorelDraw Suite is something of a counter culture choice. I use it mostly and have few regrets.

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ProSeparatorNJ

· #5 · May 25, 2018

wmth99 said:
I’m new to the T-shirt biz. I’m planning on using one of those T-shirt fulfillment companies, (at least for now). As for the graphic designs, I know there are a lot of good graphic art design software programs out there, I was planning on using Adobe but not sure if I should use Photoshop or Illustrator (or other) as I want to be able to make more complex and sophisticated type of designs.

Also, is there a template or something that’s specifically for T-shirts that help with dimensions or size, etc? Thanks.

The level of sophistication depends on the skills of the user. Both software can make truly sophisticated art. This is also true of cheap software like Affinity Designer or Affinity Photo. The real question about which software to use is really, what kind of art are you trying to make. Use the right tool for the job. Between Illustrator and Photoshop there's a lot of overlap, but Illustrator is mainly a vector software and Photoshop is mainly a raster software.

If you're not ready to pay $10.00 or $20.00 a month, have a look at Affinity Designer an Affinity Photo before you pull the trigger on Adobe. Just for making designs, they're both pretty good, and both more modern than Adobe.

At the professional level, I recommend Adobe although I work closely with people who exclusively use CorelDraw. Well, CorelDraw + Plugins to fill some of the holes in Corel's software. Adobe has it all in the box.

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alstephen

· #6 · May 31, 2018

We have both, Adobe and Corel. I personally use the Adobe products because I am on a Mac. Both have their pros and cons; I wouldn’t say one is better than the other. That’s why people have options.

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AdvancedArtist

· #7 · May 31, 2018

For me it comes to one thing. Color spaces and corel has a monster called the Wide Gamut CMYK color space which when you turn simulated color management off. This gives unhindered access to color in both the CMYK and RGB color space. It also accurately pushes all the black in CMYK into the Black.

Can you do this in PS no you cannot turn off simulated color management. But you get the color in the way I like it just allot more work.

But when understand color and color models to point where you have invented them. Then you understand where you are better off working in the world of color.

https://inkseps.com/2018/05/26/the-cwb-color-model/

Working in the Corels color spaces enabled us to do the research we needed to to come up with this new color model. The CWB color model which is unlike any other in many ways. So for it is the color. But that has been the focus of my work for years now.

There are other points as well but not time to get into them at this point.

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leunam12

· #8 · May 31, 2018

This is very interesting, Tom, how do you use the wide gamut CMYK color space in Corel? I am very interested in this.

Thanks

AdvancedArtist

· #9 · May 31, 2018

leunam12 said:
This is very interesting, Tom, how do you use the wide gamut CMYK color space in Corel? I am very interested in this.

Thanks

Go to tool/color management/default settings and set the color management Preset to simulated color management off.

leunam12

· #10 · May 31, 2018

Thank you, that was simple. How can I use it to create simulated process separations? I followed the link you provided on post #7 and went to the separator and uploaded an image to separate and downloaded the separations. The result was pretty amazing. It took me almost 2 hours to separate it using Photoshop last week, but with your tool it was just a few minutes. The plates were very similar to what I came up with in PS.

AdvancedArtist

· #11 · May 31, 2018

leunam12 said:
Thank you, that was simple. How can I use it to create simulated process separations? I followed the link you provided on post #7 and went to the separator and uploaded an image to separate and downloaded the separations. The result was pretty amazing. It took me almost 2 hours to separate it using Photoshop last week, but with your tool it was just a few minutes. The plates were very similar to what I came up with in PS.

Built the APP because the separation time and steps are very complicated but it can be done. I myself just use the APP because it is so fast and accurate. I really cannot get into how I do this in Corel because to many competitors would steal the information and work with it. I have already seen in other videos and training I have done.

But yes the APP 100% accurate and very fast.

leunam12

· #12 · May 31, 2018

Yes, it works great, but why does each channel download as an RGB file? It would be faster if the channels were grayscale files.

AdvancedArtist

· #13 · Jun 4, 2018

leunam12 said:
Yes, it works great, but why does each channel download as an RGB file? It would be faster if the channels were grayscale files.

I will take a look at that we are still beta but it works perfectly based on the shops using the system and process. Major difference is this is based on an actual color so it not spot process it like CMKY but more flexible and expanded for screen printing needs.

The APP is stilll in development and much is coming in time. I am focused on articles and color training most of the time.

Sigg

· #14 · Jun 29, 2018

I'm still running on CS6 because I can't bring myself to cough up the subscription fees for software that I don't actually own. However, I have to stick to Adobe because I do so much graphic design outside of my t-shirt stuff. However, if it was just for t-shirts…Corel is a lot cheaper, and will do everything you'll need it to…

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TABOB

· #15 · Jun 29, 2018

I feel the need to mention once more, that all I use is GIMP and Inkscape. Total cost $0, and I can install them in multiple computers.

Most people do dismiss them because they are free, and free is normally associated to trash. Well, is not the case with GPL, MIT, and other liberal licensed software. Firefox and Chrome are also free... are they trash?

Give them a go and you may thank me (or hate me) later.

Hint: You should also install gostscript, UniConvertor, and set the paths in your OS. That's a bit of a Geeky task to do, but it will allow you to open CorelDraw, Photoshop, and illustrator files.

This is just my suggestion anyway. I think people can spend their money in equipment instead. That's what I did when I first started.

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Melagoo

· #16 · Jun 30, 2018

Former CorelDraw user from way back (1990-1998 hahaahaaa) ... ADOBE all the way ... I know Illustrator very well and PhotoShop too ... I use a MAC but also use a MicroSoft Surface Pro ... Not at all sure why you would say Corel is able to crush Illustrator? ... They are both very good vector based design programs and Illustrator partners very well with PhotoShop ...

seacookie

· #17 · Jun 30, 2018

Melagoo said:
Not at all sure why you would say Corel is able to crush Illustrator?

Maybe cause he is biased? Maybe he knows corel better then Illustrator? Either way I agree. That statement can be used only in his example and his knowledge of both programs. But that can't be true for all people.

In my example I can crush corel wtih my Illustrator knowledge cause I don't have a clue about corel

Either way I seen art -masterpices from both programs and the factor which determent the end result was the knowledge of the program which was used on that art.

The problem with that statement is that noobs can read it like corel is so much better and blah blah blah. And not that he sucks at Illustrator

I am Adobe all the way. It just all around better solution for me, cause I can do everything with adobe products and they are running very nicely with each other.
I run adobe master collection and for now I can do everything. And here is a joke for today: I can crush corel with my adobe master collection

TABOB

· #18 · Jun 30, 2018

seacookie said:
Maybe cause he is biased? Maybe he knows corel better then Illustrator? Either way I agree. That statement can be used only in his example and his knowledge of both programs. But that can't be true for all people.

That's exactly what it is. For some reason people try to convince themselves, that what they know how to use is the best.
For me, if it does the job, then it's good.

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