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Hi,I goig to buy laser printer.I have about 1000GBP to spend.
What is the best option for me.I need a printer just for dark garments self weeding paper.do I need special ink for that? or better wait and buy white printer? or DTG?
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that printers only A4 ?

Any kind of printers CMYK + White ???
Sorry to disappoint you the lowest price tabloid printer I have seen in US is about $1699.00 that would be 1024GBP. That is printer only. You need to use opaque transfer. That requires vinyl cutter with registration mark sensor. If you go with white toner there is available interchangeable white toner drum set with black toner drum set. Either way you go vinyl cutter or white toner drum set will add a big chunk to your budget.

Check this thread. It is not cut and dry. Some who tried failed: http://www.t-shirtforums.com/laser-heat-transfer-paper/t215143.html
 

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I can buy first one for about 2000$ new one ,or secondhand
dtg for cost almost the same, which one should I choose.

Oki Data GO UNO LED Laser Transfer Printer | Garment Printer Ink 631-858-0114
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DTG

Im more intresing to make dark garments selfweeding.
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DTG Pros:

It will print white ink on dark shirt. The hand is soft. There is no polymer background on dark and light color shirt. Better than self weeding laser for dark.

Cons:

Here is the deal. DTG has inkjet heads. There is no question that the head(s) will eventually clog. It is just a matter of when. Especially the heads with white ink. The price to replacement heads is very expensive. If you are not going to print everyday the printer will purge the heads to keep them from clogging and drying. Meaning the inks are wasting away as the heads are being purged. Preteat is required for durability. The hand will suffer when treatment is over done.

GO UNO:

Pros:

The printer is designed for heat transfer paper. The printer menu has dedicated settings for some of available transfers on the market. The very resolution is very high that is suited for self seeding light and dark transfer provided that the image is vivid and spot color. Dark transfer may require white toner to increase opacity. It is tabloid printer.

Cons:

The price is $2195.00 in US. Maybe it is $195.00 cheaper in your nick of the woods. It does not print white. Therefore self weeding transfer for dark will not transfer white part of the artwork. An interchangeable white toner and drum set with black toner and drum set is available but expensive. The system is not cut and dry. It requires skill, trial and error to implement. Dark transfer without white toner as under base has low opacity. The opacity is worse when used on cotton blend. The artwork needs to be vivid, high toner density and spot color. Laser transfer hand is slightly heavier than inkjet. It does improve after few washes.

I am not trying to discourage or encourage you on what to pick. Just pointing out the advantages and disadvantages. You decide what is best suited for your need.
 

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DTG Pros:

It will print white ink on dark shirt. The hand is soft. There is no polymer background on dark and light color shirt. Better than self weeding laser for dark.

Cons:

Here is the deal. DTG has inkjet heads. There is no question that the head(s) will eventually clog. It is just a matter of when. Especially the heads with white ink. The price to replacement heads is very expensive. If you are not going to print everyday the printer will purge the heads to keep them from clogging and drying. Meaning the inks are wasting away as the heads are being purged. Preteat is required for durability. The hand will suffer when treatment is over done.

GO UNO:

Pros:

The printer is designed for heat transfer paper. The printer menu has dedicated settings for some of available transfers on the market. The very resolution is very high that is suited for self seeding light and dark transfer provided that the image is vivid and spot color. Dark transfer may require white toner to increase opacity. It is tabloid printer.

Cons:

The price is $2195.00 in US. Maybe it is $195.00 cheaper in your nick of the woods. It does not print white. Therefore self weeding transfer for dark will not transfer white part of the artwork. An interchangeable white toner and drum set with black toner and drum set is available but expensive. The system is not cut and dry. It requires skill, trial and error to implement. Dark transfer without white toner as under base has low opacity. The opacity is worse when used on cotton blend. The artwork needs to be vivid, high toner density and spot color. Laser transfer hand is slightly heavier than inkjet. It does improve after few washes.

I am not trying to discourage or encourage you on what to pick. Just pointing out the advantages and disadvantages. You decide what is best suited for your need.
I thinking to buy laser printer,but is a worth buy go uno 2100$ or better to buy older models of laser printer to get the same results and save some money?
( I thinking to make 5-20 dark garm shirts a week ) because I using vinyl cutter ,and epson B1100 for light garments aswell.


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I thinking to buy laser printer,but is a worth buy go uno 2100$ or better to buy lower model of laser printer to get the same results and save some money?
( I thinking to make 5-20 dark garm shirts a week ) because I using vinyl cutter ,and epson B1100 for light garments aswell.
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I am not sure if you understand what I am telling you. Self weeding for dark will not have good transferred image without white toner.

Tell you what. Ask for printed and weeded sample from one of the vendors. Press it on a dark shirt. If you think it is acceptable then ask the vendor the printer model that was used to print the sample. Then buy it if you can afford it.
 

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I am not sure if you understand what I am telling you. Self weeding for dark will not have good transferred image without white toner.

Tell you what. Ask for printed and weeded sample from one of the vendors. Press it on a dark shirt. If you think it is acceptable then ask the vendor the printer model that was used to print the sample. Then buy it if you can afford it.
printers with white toner cost to much i think C711wt 2800Euro (post include) , dtg im not going to use every day i think ,so 3 option is good idea :) thanks
 

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I am not sure if you understand what I am telling you. Self weeding for dark will not have good transferred image without white toner.

Tell you what. Ask for printed and weeded sample from one of the vendors. Press it on a dark shirt. If you think it is acceptable then ask the vendor the printer model that was used to print the sample. Then buy it if you can afford it.
Last think, can I make tshirt looks like this image below using laser printer CMYK or CMYW ?

[media]http://www.hdwallpaperscool.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/burrning-skull-image-free-download-terrible-horror-wallpapers-hd.jpg[/media]
 

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Last think, can I make tshirt looks like this image below using laser printer CMYK or CMYW ?

[media]http://www.hdwallpaperscool.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/burrning-skull-image-free-download-terrible-horror-wallpapers-hd.jpg[/media]
There are light colors and white in that design. The white will be black. The light colors it the opaque will transfer on them at all will be blotchy because there are not enough toners to lift the opaque from sheet B. To answer your question, it is no. If there is white toner I would say maybe. I finally have white toner that I can try. I am waiting to the transfer papers. I will let you know.
 
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