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Vinyl over rivets on trailer - first time

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HI,

I'm doing my first "trailer" for a friend. I've searched everywhere and have received lots of information on what tools and what vinyl to use. But, really not much on how to apply. They want the rivets covered and I'm not sure how exactly to lay the vinyl. I've already ordered a heat gun and rollerpro. But, exactly how am I supposed to lay the vinyl down when I get by the rivets??

Another question is how to price. This is a friend and since it's my first time I plan on giving them a break. I bought two 24" 10 yard rolls of cast metalic vinyl, and plan on charging double the cost of the vinyl I purchased because most if not all the vinyl will be used for their trailer. I know they are going to be there to help me out, ie, handing me tools, helping me line up the designs, etc. Also, they are going to wash the trailer first thing in the morning so it is dry when I get there. But, I really have no idea on how to price for this type of work in the first place. Can someone give me ideas on how to price and what the job should cost so I know in the future?

I know I need masking tape, squeegees, bubble popper. Any other tools or anything I need to know about for this that I didn't mention? Thanks for any and all help!!!
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This video may help you.....

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z4YSMH06l4[/media]

Or this one....

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai7C_o0nGgM&feature=related[/media]

It's really easier to watch someone else do it then try to explain it, but your heat gun is your best friend doing rivets.

Sounds like you have all the tools covered, as far as pricing, that's a tough one to answer as you'll find installing the vinyl is the hard part and is labor intense, we charge by the job depending on the size of the trailer, the artwork, and the customer....but a per hour charge for installation is not out of the question either.

You might want to take some alcohol, clean lint free rags, a stool, a ladder, razor blades, exacto knife, laser thermometer (to measure the heat your applying).

Even though you said they were going to wash it, do a walk around before you start, look for bugs, road tar, grease, and remove all of these, do a wipe down with your alcohol before you apply your vinyl.

There's more but you'll figure it out....just don't get in a hurry take your time.

Hope this helps.
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First thing I would do is try a sample of the metalic your going to use. Some of them (the metalics) are not going to be able to conform to the shape of the rivits and will leave little tents around the rivets. Good luck, I wouldn't want that job on the cheap for sure.
Avery have a publication on this.
See page 5 - refers to riveted surfaces.

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Thanks to everyone for all the help. I've been cutting and weeding all day. I'm exhausted.

Probably wouldn't be so bad if all the lettering didn't have to be outlined.

I'm applying tomorrow. I'll post pictures. That is if looks good enough to take pictures..... :p
Boy! What a long couple weeks. On the 29th, (thurs) I spend 12 hours cutting, weeding and taping. On friday and Saturday I spent hours at their house putting the vinyl on. On Sunday I spent the day cutting vinyl and heat pressing for their shirts. On Monday I went with my husband for a stress test and he ended up in the hospital the same day for a heart cath and Wednesday he had a single bypass surgery. So between running back and forth to the hospital, taking care of our boarding kennel, putting my business on hold, taking care of him, I haven't stopped since the 29th and I'm exhausted. Finally have time to post pictures of the trailer.... I must not have taken a picture of the one side of the trailer, I only have part.

I also hate, hate, hate, hate, (you get the idea) rivets. They were so difficult to lay the vinyl around. And also the first time I did an outline. For some weird reason the two layers didn't fit good. I could get one side matched up great and by the time I got to the end, there was space between the layers. We ended up cutting the words up into individual letters to get them better. Would have much rather did shadow instead.
And bubbles!!! And I used Rapid-tac II. Well, I guess it's more about inexperience........

Anyway, could someone tell me what you would charge for a job like this??? They are good friends and my boss!! :)

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On Monday I went with my husband for a stress test and he ended up in the hospital the same day for a heart cath and Wednesday he had a single bypass surgery.
Hope your husband is doing ok....

I also hate, hate, hate, hate, (you get the idea) rivets. They were so difficult to lay the vinyl around. And also the first time I did an outline. For some weird reason the two layers didn't fit good. I could get one side matched up great and by the time I got to the end, there was space between the layers. We ended up cutting the words up into individual letters to get them better. Would have much rather did shadow instead.
And bubbles!!! And I used Rapid-tac II. Well, I guess it's more about inexperience........
First let me say you did a great job, the graphics look great, on the outlines how did you apply them? we normally will put the two pieces of vinyl together in the shop and apply it to the vehicle that way as apposed to applying the shadow to the trailer then the lettering over it.

Yes rivets are a royal pain, the few times I've used rapid-tac it has caused me more problems with bubbles because you have to squeegee every bit of fluid out from under the graphic to get rid of the bubbles and with rivets that's almost an impossibility.

We apply everything dry, no application fluid, you just need to position your graphic by measuring, taping, and do the hinge method like any other signage....then apply heat to the rivet area and use a RolliePro or something similar to get the vinyl to suck down around the rivet.

Anyway, could someone tell me what you would charge for a job like this??? They are good friends and my boss!! :)
Since it's friends, and cut vinyl, given the hours you have involved and the fact you applied the graphics, two layer, etc....lowest I'd do it would be around $400, if it was just a regular customer off the street $550-$650.

Hope this helps.
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