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Using Jetpro Sofstretch on dark shirts

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This is an FNG question, so be nice. Can a person re-design their image so as to be able to use Jetpro Sofstretch paper on a dark shirt. Such as adding a trimable light background to the image that is to be printed?

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medevac121 said:
This is an FNG question, so be nice. Can a person re-design their image so as to be able to use Jetpro Sofstretch paper on a dark shirt. Such as adding a trimable light background to the image that is to be printed?

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No, if you want to put something on a dark shirt you will need to print on an opaque paper.

JPSS only works with light colors and of course white.
JPSS is basically clear, so anything you put it on (like a black shirt) is going to show thru.
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NoXid
No. Your inkjet has no white ink, so there is no way to underbase the colors.
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OK then, what if I create my design using transparency and the color of the shirt to fit the image. Like a banner, using the color of the shirt for the background of the banner.
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The inks of your printer are designed to be printed on a white substrate (paper, T-shirt) and are not opaque such that they will show up against dark. Imagine running a dark piece of paper through your inkjet printer. That's the result you'd get with JPSS on a dark shirt.
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Do a test print on paper the same color as the shirt and you will understand what they have all been telling you. Or heck try one on a shirt but that will waste more money. I love JPSS but only use it on white. Even on a light grey you start to loose color definition unless you are printing totally black. Plus the polymer (or whatever JPSS is) shows up on darker shirts so any open area if you have text etc... will show up but not on white.
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Try it on a test shirt and you'll see what happens. Basically what they've been saying in earlier replies. Like you I thought I'd try and gave up on that idea after my first test print on a dark shirt.
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I have printed JPSS on ash gray and natural white shirts. It doesn't look as good as it does on white shirts but the results are reasonably acceptable for customers who want something besides white shirts. Just be sure to explain to them that the color of the shirt will be the light areas of the print, so full color prints will have less contrast in the highlight areas.
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We have had good results (using JPSS) on:
(100% cotton, or close to it in the case of the safety colors)

White
Ash Gray
Safety Yellow/Green
Safety Orange
(we have also used some light colors, that we have had mixed results with)

You just need to account for the shirt color.
So in the case of the safety color shirts, the design was all black.
Shirts looked exactly like we wanted them, clients were very happy.
(We do 1000's of these a year for lawn/landscapers)
They hold up surprisingly well.

I will try to post a pic of safety colored ones so you guys can see how well they turn out.
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Ripcord said:
I have printed JPSS on ash gray and natural white shirts. It doesn't look as good as it does on white shirts but the results are reasonably acceptable for customers who want something besides white shirts. Just be sure to explain to them that the color of the shirt will be the light areas of the print, so full color prints will have less contrast in the highlight areas.
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Thanks, I like the videos also
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Amw said:
We have had good results (using JPSS) on:
(100% cotton, or close to it in the case of the safety colors)


(We do 1000's of these a year for lawn/landscapers)
They hold up surprisingly well.
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Why do you use inkjet transfers for this job rather than screen print? (I was just curious when I read it...)
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i'll add to Amw's and say safety pink works as well (we use 50/50 blends)

you will get slight color variations depending on tee color,
but the colors themselves pop really nice on the 'safety' colors

we have done somewhat darker heathers with decent results,
but the design needs a black background and frame around it to enhance the colors
(as they mute exponentially with the shirts darkness)

we are switching t-shirt brands and transitioning to lighter heathers this year

if your designs are conducive to it, try extracting/subtracting a distressed overlay to your designs for darker tees
that way your design's muted colors will appear purposeful

like Ripcord says though, if it is a customer supplied design, then it won't really work on darker colors
if it is your own designs then there is much more room for tee colors

i've seen mentioned here recently, and watched a video where you add a white screen-print underbase then press your jpss onto it
of course, the only video that i really wanted to bookmark, i somehow didn't
and i have not found it since
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into the T said:
... i've seen mentioned here recently, and watched a video where you add a white screen-print underbase then press your jpss onto it
of course, the only video that i really wanted to bookmark, i somehow didn't
and i have not found it since
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I posted something about that a few weeks ago. My idea was to screen print a discharge base and press the JPSS on what would then be white cotton. When I googled to see if anyone had tried it, I found this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqky06LpNAo&feature=youtu.be

Overall I decided, at least for now, that it would be too much bother. But it would get you the low hand of JPSS on dark shirts.
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that's the video

thanks
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AMW, just curious on how you apply JPSS to saftey green, isn't the max temp on
safety green 320 deg. Thanks, Mark
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into the T said:
that's the video

thanks
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Here is another with a similar idea, but combining inkjet transfer and Plastisol transfer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivpkE9tMsZc

He is apparently no longer selling the transfer paper that he used, but is instead providing the service of making hybrid inkjet/Plastisol transfers for people:
https://www.monkey-prints.com/

I doubt his "BananaPeel" transfer paper was something he had manufactured ... probably just JPSS, or the like. Since the hybrid transfer is applied at 250, only the Plastisol transfer glue binds to the shirt, not the non-printed areas of the (assumed to be) JPSS. So, in effect, this is similar to the two stage process used with some weedless laser transfers. Then when the transfer is cured, the inkjet plastic melts into the Plastisol.

It would only be worth the bother for colorful photographic type art. And assuming one can achieve lower hand and better durability than inkjet transfers for darks.

Yet another way to chase the unicorn of a durable, decent hand, dark shirt inkjet transfer :)
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NoXid said:
Yet another way to chase the unicorn of a durable, decent hand, dark shirt inkjet transfer :)
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i'd be happy with just a narwhal!

instead the best i have got is this:

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into the T said:
i'd be happy with just a narwhal!

instead the best i have got is this:
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That is so accurate!!! lol!!!
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