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I need some help. I have had my Epson for over a month and I have used other pretreat and I have not been happy. I do have a pretreat machine. I got a gallon on Image Armor Ultra and I can not find any info or answers to what time temp and pressure. So here is what I use

I have 3 hotronix heat presses. I have the Teflon cover on the top part on the machine and also the bottom. I have silicone paper and craft paper. I'm looking for answers. After spraying the shirt what is the best way to get the fibers down on the shirt. Do I use craft paper? What is the temp. Pressure, and time? With cover on press or not?

Do I use silicone paper? What is the temp. Pressure, and time? With cover on press or not?

So far I have been using the Hanes nano shirt but oter time I have customers wanting to use the Sanmar District 6000.

The out come is not good.

Also on the Garment Creator software what should be the settings for a dark or Black shirt?

I'm just not happy and I can not get any answers from the companies I called that sell Image Armor no one seems to be on the same page or have the answers.

Epson rep came by today because I have called about white problems and before he got there I fixed it. He has no answers or better yet I know more about the machine then he does. the black shirts still look bad.

I sent a Facebook masg to Image Armor and no response.

After 1400 prints and a tube washing 4 600cc white inks and I ink of every color I'm about to blow a gadgets.

I'm asking for HELP!!!!????
 

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I will print and do same. If you want actual shirts I will ship to you after we both post here.
I think it is good deal. I will tell what we did and how.
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Send me your shirts and image.
I will blow your mind. :):D
Post your un satisfy picture here. Please use photobucket of etc. Not use Tsf attachment option.
I will print and do same. If you want actual shirts I will ship to you after we both post here.
I think it is good deal. I will tell what we did and how.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.
Peter, I have the new rip I got from All American. I am excited to use this new purchase, but I need to know how to setup my f2000. They guys at the shop said they didn't have time to help me and I needed an appt? Can you help? I am ready to get my mind blown! LOL
 

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1. Spray with pretreatment
2. Brush the fibers down in one direction while the shirt is wet
3. Place onto heat press and cover with silicon or coated craft paper
4. Press at 330f for 30 secs with heavy pressure
5. Verify shirt is 100% dry...if needed press for an additional 10 seconds
6. Print beautiful shirts
 

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You are running your presses to close to min temp for image armour. The temp on your press must maintain a minimum of 325. The press will drop 10 degrees at least on pressing. Also a teflon cover can lower the effective temp by 10 degrees. You must check actual output with a full contact probe.
I run mine at 342, it drpos to 331 during operation. Also consider recovery time between shirts. I sent u a PM
 

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Pic #1 looks like there is either not enough pretreatment or you have several white nozzles not firing. Do a medium clean and try to add more pretreat. You basically can't over pretreat a shirt if using Image Armor or Epson's pretreat. Start with a heavy saturation and then back it off till the print quality suffers.
 

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Send me your shirts and image.
I will blow your mind. :):D
Post your un satisfy picture here. Please use photobucket of etc. Not use Tsf attachment option.
I will print and do same. If you want actual shirts I will ship to you after we both post here.
I think it is good deal. I will tell what we did and how.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.
I posted the images of the shirts printed, I need an email to send the files to.
 

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1. Spray with pretreatment
2. Brush the fibers down in one direction while the shirt is wet
3. Place onto heat press and cover with silicon or coated craft paper
4. Press at 330f for 30 secs with heavy pressure
5. Verify shirt is 100% dry...if needed press for an additional 10 seconds
6. Print beautiful shirts
I will try that but do I leave the Teflon cover on the heat press on the top and bottom????
 

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I have a hotronix hover. I hover first for 70sec at 350 then press for 70 again. If i wipe on the black i get a little die on finger
 

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Teflon on the top is ok but must be wiped after EVERY shirt is pretreated. If it were me I would take the teflon cover off the top and leave the bottom one on. I would also suggest using either the brown craft paper or silicon coated paper.

CURING EPSON INK:
45 Seconds for CMYK ONLY Prints - 350f - Light Pressure
90 Seconds for CMYK+W Printer - 350f - Light Pressure

Where did you get the 70 seconds of hovering and an additional 70 seconds from? Last thing..be sure to verify that your heat press is actually at the temperature indicated.
 

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Try using parchment paper for your cover sheet on the pretreat. When you pull the sheet off the pretreat it should just glide off. If you are having to tug on it as you're pulling the sheet off the pretreat it is not dry enough and you are actually pulling pretreat off the shirt.

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Appears not enough pretreatment. Should be 23 g.
Image Armour and epson need to reach 325 degrees to activate. Also what Dekay said. Dump the upper cover.
 

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Peter, I have the new rip I got from All American. I am excited to use this new purchase, but I need to know how to setup my f2000. They guys at the shop said they didn't have time to help me and I needed an appt? Can you help? I am ready to get my mind blown! LOL
This got squared away quickly today. Thanks to the NEO Staff. Very much appreciated. I am going to be happy to report my findings I hope.
 

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This got squared away quickly today. Thanks to the NEO Staff. Very much appreciated. I am going to be happy to report my findings I hope.
1. Print white back ground only on both software.
2. Image quality compare by good picture do not use TSF picture option. Use Photobucket.com copy Image. Not link.
3. Print whole shirts white+CYMK by both softwares and weight both before dry.
4. Report to us on your research. Lol. Don't blown away too far. It will hurt when you land.
Don't forget weight before any inks are on shirts. All shirts are different weights.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.
 

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Appears not enough pretreatment. Should be 23 g.
Image Armour and epson need to reach 325 degrees to activate. Also what Dekay said. Dump the upper cover.
I have 27grams of pretreatment image armor. I'm using a craft paper with heavy heat. I used a rolling pin when wet to lay down the fibers before pressing
 

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Ok, so hows the actual heat press temps. 27 grams on a 14x16 area should be very wet. Should be plenty. Rolling hard could force fluid thru shirt. This should print excellent.
 
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