Hey Roy, did you read this thread? It might help you out a little..
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/showthread.php?t=6081
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/showthread.php?t=6081
I recently received an order for 20 shirts to ship with all haste to Nigeria
I would not ship the order without a more verified form of payment (verified wire transfer) AND more confirmation from the buyer.but I thought I’d ask if there are any steps I’m overlooking in my loss prevention plan and for opinions on how any of you would proceed.
Case closed: it's a scam.HELLO,I REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR EMAIL.
LIKE I ONCE TOLD YOU THAT THESE TEES ARE NEEDED FOR AN
OCCASSION WHICH IS COMING UP SOON,SO I HOPE IT WILL BE
RECIEVED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
I HAVE CONTACTED ONE OF THE ORGANIZATION CLIENT WHO IS
A DONOR ABOUT THIS TRANSACTION AND THE REASON WHY I AM
EMAILING YOU IS TO BRING TO YOUR AWARENESS THAT THE
TOTAL MONEY THAT WILL BE REMITTED INTO YOUR PAYPAL
ACCOUNT WILL BE $3500 AND AFTER THE REMITTATION,YOU
ARE TO DEDUCT THE SUM OF $340 WHICH IS THE TOTAL COST
OF YOUR ORDER AND HAS FOR THE REMAINING $3160,YOU
SHOULD SEND IT THROUGH WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER
WITH THE PAYMENT DETAILS I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH.
I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO RECIEVE THE MONEY IN MY PAYPAL
ACCOUNT BUT ITS A PITY THAT THE ORGANIZATION DOES NOT
HAVE A PAYPAL ACCOUNT AND I STRONGLY DO BELIEVE THAT
YOU WILL NOT BETRAY THE TRUST THE ORGANIZATION HAS
GIVEN YOU.
PLS GET BACK TO ME TELLING ME THAT YOU WILL DO HAS I
HAVE SAID WITH THE FEAR OF GOD IN MIND.
PLS GET BACK TO ME SOON SO THE REMMITTATION CAN BE
MADE SOON BECAUSE THE ORDER IS NEEDED URGENTLY.
THANKS.
I've seen the scams for any mutiple of items over 1It seems like these sorts of scams are usually requesting a much larger order (e.g. 200 items, not 20), so that's sort of a gray flag
Another good scam fighting technique. Communicate with the potential customer A LOTCase closed: it's a scam.
Wow, sure did. It's great that you won't have to wonder "what if"PvN Captain said:Well the villain tipped his hand after all.
Fair enough, good to know.Rodney said:I've seen the scams for any mutiple of items over 1They rarely ask for just ONE item, but sometimes it's 10, sometimes it's 20, sometimes it's 2000.
Definitely. Get information about their bank, company, etc.Rodney said:Another good scam fighting technique. Communicate with the potential customer A LOTAsk questions. Get more details.
Not _quite_. I believe Rodney said (I think; someone here did anyway) that he has actually had one legitimate order from Nigeria before. Granted, this is hardly a large number, and ignoring all inquiries won't likely cost you much. But, it's not like all scammers are from Nigeria either. There are several in other countries, and not just Africa; plenty in Europe and Asia too.jdr8271 said:Just set up a filter on your email. Any email with the word nigeria in it DELETE. Its always a scam. ALWAYS.
I did have ONE legitimate order from Nigeria, but the original quote email didn't mention anything about nigeria. If it did, I probably would have deleted it and never looked back. I'm talking ONE email out of over 2000+ emails and 100+ scam TDD phone calls. Definitely not worth the odds.Not _quite_. I believe Rodney said (I think; someone here did anyway) that he has actually had one legitimate order from Nigeria before. Granted, this is hardly a large number, and ignoring all inquiries won't likely cost you much. But, it's not like all scammers are from Nigeria either.
You can check their ips on yahoo and hotmail. Gmail does not send ip addresses, but these guys are too dumb to figure that out.The filtering idea is cool and all, but i don't think the scammer will indicate they are from Nigeria right off the bat in the email. So these scams can still come through you email and bypass your filters. I'm not sure if you can trace their email's IP address if they are using a free account like yahoo mail or gmail. IP addresses are a good indicators if you can get a hold of them.
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Surprisingly, most of them do. Specifically lagos nigeria.i don't think the scammer will indicate they are from Nigeria right off the bat in the email
About 8000 printed shirts. Again, it wasn't actually "from" nigeria. The customer was in the Southern US, but the final destination was nigeria.Rodney, how big was the order from nigeria?
I almost consider myself an expert on nigerian scam techniques, tricks, wording. I can spot it 50,000,425 miles awayIt is very common for nigerian scammers to place small orders with american companies. The credit cards checkout, and the order goes through fine. then, a few months down the road, they place a massive order. The american company thinks everything is fine since they sold to the nigerian scammer before. They ship the goods right out after running the credit card. One week later, the credit card is charged back..