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Tint charged as separate color - EVERYWHERE?

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Hi folks,
I've been using 1 or 2 color super simple designs for years.
This year I finally bought corel draw, watched tons of videos, and spent hours trying to learn how to use it.
I saw the advanced tee shirt videos, and bought simple seps. WOWOWOW, I can take one color, make it into all these tints, and they will print them all with one color ink.
Not at F&M, they won't. Each tint has to be called out as a separate color, and charged accordingly.
BUMMER!
Is this generally true, or should I look for another vendor?
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Hi folks,
I've been using 1 or 2 color super simple designs for years.
This year I finally bought corel draw, watched tons of videos, and spent hours trying to learn how to use it.
I saw the advanced tee shirt videos, and bought simple seps. WOWOWOW, I can take one color, make it into all these tints, and they will print them all with one color ink.
Not at F&M, they won't.
In terms of getting the best quality, F&M Expressions and other serious printers are correctly separating the halftones from solid color. Halftones and solid color do not necessarily use the same mesh count. The problem is that when you try to lay down a nice even solid color, the halftones that are on the same screen may suffer from dot gain and become darker or fill in creating a mess. If you try to cater to the halftones on press, then you will possibly lay down a very light ink in solid color areas. The way you treat both correctly is by having a separate screen for halftones vs solids.
F&M are doing the right thing for maximum quality.

Of course the cheaper and lesser quality route is to put it all on one screen. I do it constantly but you may wrestle with it on press or settle for a lesser quality result. F&M Expressions is not trying to gouge you. Some printers absolutely default to the cheap route because quality was never their intention. Just getting the job out the door and getting the next one on press is all they can think.

Separating solids from halftones is probably even more necessary for transfers than for direct screen printing.
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Thanks so much.
There is so much to learn in this business.
I will agree the the spot colors should be on a separate screen from the halftones. But for most designs mixing diffrent halftones is no problem at all without any quality issues when it comes to direct screen printing. The only time I so separate screens is for mixed halftones is in photographic quality images and a few other situations. Now transfers may be a diffrent story and I have never made transfer but have been considering it.
F&M doesn't separate same color halftones into different screens but they may separate solid color from halftone of the same color.
We order large quantities of custom transfers because we have a tourist shop.
So they all are the same name and theme, only a little bit different size, style, logo.
We do multiple hundreds of sweat pants, for example.
I was hoping that a tint of one of the standard colors would be priced as if it was all one color.
Not just price matters. F&M is SO quick on their 15 cent stuff.
Short season, time matters.
I'm happy to pay for 2 colors, but it means we can't do as many different colors as we'd like.
And it means closer to 10 days instead of 4.

So anyway, live and learn.
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