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Someone, please talk to me....

I have been screen printing for 5 years now and had become completely burnt out so I decided to sell off my equipment and purchase all new DTG equipment. I thought this was going to simplify my life and at the same time be able to offer new products to my customers, so far I was wrong. I now have a Viper XP1000 pretreatment machine, Stahl's fusion press and a DTG M2 printer. I have been using it for almost a month now and I am beyond frustrated to the point of giving up. As of yesterday, I felt like I had made every technical mistake and learned my lessons the hard way. I came to the shop confident yesterday thinking that today's prints would be good, oh was I wrong. I feel like I am taking 1 step forward and 2 back every day. Is everyone else out there struggling like me? For the life of me, I can not get consistent prints or the quality I was expecting. Tech support is pathetic, to say the least, and never have a real answer only after you send an email and they decide to call you back. When I started I thought I would take some of the variables out of the equation by only offering Bella Canvas garments but still, it seems like every color has its own specific issues. I wish there was someone who has made it through the learning curve that I could pick up the phone and talk too! The DTG brand pretreatment I started with was staining every other color shirt and I am now using Firebird GTX which seems to have resolved that issue. The spray nozzle on the Viper was bad, unknowing to me for a while because I had no reference as to what the spray pattern should look but is now replaced and coating good. I am using a good pretreatment that's not staining garments. I am using high-quality Bella Canvas garments but still get crappy prints. Yesterday I was printing a simple 1 color red design on a dark grey shirt. The red looks great wet but once cured its dull and dingy. All my settings and curing processes are spot on with the DTG M2 company suggestions, I am lost. My orders are backed up and customers are growing impatient. A couple orders I have printed twice and they are still not right. My business has been very successful for years and now it's all falling apart....
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I'm so sorry that you're having a bad time at the minute.

What issues are you having with the print? I know that you said that they're not consistent but is it anything in particular?
Also, did your supplier not offer 1:1 training on your M2 to make sure that you knew what you were doing?
I decided to sell off my equipment and purchase all new DTG equipment. I thought this was going to simplify my life
Big mistake... DTG is a completely different model, and nothing can match the durability of plastisol. Why do you think Nike, Adidas, and every other big brand screen print their shirts?

I thought I would take some of the variables out of the equation by only offering Bella Canvas garments but still, it seems like every color has its own specific issues.
I had exactly the same problem... and it is actually far worse. Even the same model and color from a different factory will also print different.


The problem is obviously not the technology (DTG), but the high number of variables involved. If you print on the same fabric all the time it will obviously work just fine.



esterday I was printing a simple 1 color red design on a dark grey shirt. The red looks great wet but once cured its dull and dingy.
That's too much pressure, pushing the color into the white layer. Try hovering the press for a few seconds to dry the color layer, and then press with very light pressure. Note that the POD companies cure shirts through a conveyor dryer, so they don't use any pressure at all.
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