[ponypome]

hi just a simple question,if i print out a picture with sub inks and laminate the print ,what would the outcome of this print over time compared to sub ink that has been heat pressed to a high temperature,any help or knowledge welcome thank you

 

[skdave]

Transfers on paper are use and thrown away. I don't understand your desire to keep one?

 

[ponypome]

i am not printing a transfer,a lot use sublimation inks for photos and print work without using the inks for heat press work

 

[cubedecibel]

Haha. What?

 

[pisquee]

I think you are confused, but I am not sure exactly how you have got to what you are thinking.

 

[spiderx1]

When sublimation inks are used for printing they are very dull until heat pressed on material or other suitable substrate. Sounds like u are barking up the wrong tree.

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[Jinxter]

hi just a simple question,if i print out a picture with sub inks and laminate the print ,what would the outcome of this print over time compared to sub ink that has been heat pressed to a high temperature,any help or knowledge welcome thank you

Are you talking about using a dye-sub photo printer such as those used for event printing?

 

[skdave]

The good news is he doesn't want to print on Black Cotton.

 

[djque]

That's a different printer but it's a dye sub printer but the prints are small. I see them for sale on Craigslist. Mitsubishi CP-9810DW printer. These prints will last long.

 

[mgparrish]

That's a different printer but it's a dye sub printer but the prints are small. I see them for sale on Craigslist. Mitsubishi CP-9810DW printer. These prints will last long.

Yes I have an Olympus (8 x 10) and a Hi-Ti from back in event days. People get confused on these, these actually are true dye sublimation printers, the heads are thermal and heat a ribbon that has dye sub inks on it. The substrate is a clear polymer coated photo paper. So they sublimate paper.

These only really have use now for event photography.

 

[ponypome]

The good news is he doesn't want to print on Black Cotton.

he is not a he but a she and sorry not a dumb butt ,have been using sublimation inks for 6 years now :tipthank:

 

[ponypome]

the reason i ask what there durability is as i ordered some pvc plastic card was able to print on one side and then heat press on a low heat of 80 on to a a pvc plastic sheet the two bonded together and i have a printed plastic sign ,one method of doing business cards the sublimation ink is printed on film them heat pressed on to pvc card where some business card are printed straight on to the pvc card,i believe this thermal type method does not heat the inks in the printers to that at the most basic settings in a heat press ,so 6 hours reading last night i am aware this what i have done with the pvc cards will last maybe the same as Reverse transfer printing cards done with sublimation which is between 2 and 7 years ,the images on the signs i have made are sharp and crisp and the plastic laminate outside is hard to scratch ,i believe the laminate pvc card i got maybe is along the lines of laminating film compound with PET film and EVA and uv protection but not sure as in Chinese writing ,can take a photo of the sign tomorrow as it late at night ,i was hoping someone could give me some insight and not mock me for what i have asked

 

[mgparrish]

the reason i ask what there durability is as i ordered some pvc plastic card was able to print on one side and then heat press on a low heat of 80 on to a a pvc plastic sheet the two bonded together and i have a printed plastic sign ,one method of doing business cards the sublimation ink is printed on film them heat pressed on to pvc card where some business card are printed straight on to the pvc card,i believe this thermal type method does not heat the inks in the printers to that at the most basic settings in a heat press ,so 6 hours reading last night i am aware this what i have done with the pvc cards will last maybe the same as Reverse transfer printing cards done with sublimation which is between 2 and 7 years ,the images on the signs i have made are sharp and crisp and the plastic laminate outside is hard to scratch ,i believe the laminate pvc card i got maybe is along the lines of laminating film compound with PET film and EVA and uv protection but not sure as in Chinese writing ,can take a photo of the sign tomorrow as it late at night ,i was hoping someone could give me some insight and not mock me for what i have asked

I know what you are referring to, on ID cards those printers are used and then a clear protective coat is placed over it. You have to be careful what laminate you use, sublimation dye loves polyester so when the over coat is over the printing the dyes in the printing can do what we call "dye migration". The dyes will travel from the printed area over time and then the image will blur out.

Usually these printing systems are for smaller cards, like ID cards ... for example ...

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[BRC]

Pvc when used for outdoor signs tends to dry out and crack, making it short term signage. If used indoors there would be no problem with the dye sub printing unless it was placed where the sunlight hit it and it would dry out the pvc anyways. So if it was laminated for outdoor use it may last a short time longer but still a short term sign, and lamination for indoor use would be unnecessary.