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special color which can 80% stable for trimfree light laser transfer paper

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hi everyone, since I use trimfree light laser transfer paper, I like to sharing there is some special color which can 80% stable / nice result for using trim free light laser transfer paper :
blue, green, red, orange, navy blue, deep navy blue, grass green, spring green, chartreuse, ruby red, brick red, neon red, deep purple, deep river, deep azure, strom blue, deep blue
by convert your design color to above color you can get 80% stable / nice result
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Tried it on a safety green and the dark polymer around the image was very visible. Waiting 3 seconds instead of 7 to 10 seconds was better but the polymer is still visible. Unlike Imageclip.
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herewith 2 photo
'best' press at t-shirt cotton100 combed20s
'lms' press at canvas cotton100 carded20s

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I think you try first with pure solid color : blueC100Y0M100K0 redC0Y100M100K0 greenC100Y100M0K0
I use xerox docuprint c1110b with printer setting fine photo and paper type use coated1 because the character of trimfree light laser transfer paper is a coated paper not a heavy paper so make it like it should
You really can't tell from the small attached images if there is no polymer window or not.
ok herewith another photo
this image contain 80% solid color so I did not convert to special color
my way is only can transfer 90% solid color but minimize polymer window
I think this is win win solution for someone who want to use trimfree light laser transfer with simple way which only use 1 step, simple cost which only use 1 transfer paper and get 80% stable result to minimize defect

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ok herewith another photo
this image contain 80% solid color so I did not convert to special color
my way is only can transfer 90% solid color but minimize polymer window
I think this is win win solution for someone who want to use trimfree light laser transfer with simple way which only use 1 step, simple cost which only use 1 transfer paper and get 80% stable result to minimize defect
Can you post a picture that has open areas around the image to show that there is no polymer window like the one I posted here. Double click the attachment to view it larger than the forum's image viewer. As you can see TrimFree has a dark box around the image while Imageclip does not have it.

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ok herewith another photo, note the line mark at right image is not a window polymer because I put the fabric yarn on a chair
see used trimfree laser transfer, spot yellow happened because I use 80% red color C0Y100M100K0, the laser printer will print yellow color first then magenta so as my explanation above not 100% yellow can transfer properly but the benefit it will reduce window polymer as win win solution

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ok herewith another photo, note the line mark at right image is not a window polymer because I put the fabric yarn on a chair
see used trimfree laser transfer, spot yellow happened because I use 80% red color C0Y100M100K0, the laser printer will print yellow color first then magenta so as my explanation above not 100% yellow can transfer properly but the benefit it will reduce window polymer as win win solution
How do you press it on the shirt? I have tried different method and the best I got is by waiting 3 seconds instead of 7 to 10 seconds. Waiting 7 to 10 seconds leaves dark polymer window as shown in my post above. At 3 seconds the polymer is not as bad but you can still see it.

I was told by Joto rep to wait 7 to 10 seconds, stretch the shirt on the sides then top and bottom to release the transfer. Peel hot slow and smooth. I still am getting dark polymer window.
How do you press it on the shirt? I have tried different method and the best I got is by waiting 3 seconds instead of 7 to 10 seconds. Waiting 7 to 10 seconds leaves dark polymer window as shown in my post above. At 3 seconds the polymer is not as bad but you can still see it.

I was told by Joto rep to wait 7 to 10 seconds, stretch the shirt on the sides then top and bottom to release the transfer. Peel hot slow and smooth. I still am getting dark polymer window.
press use joto instruction, peeling should wait 15seconds, release the transfer should diagonal whatever you like bottom left to top right or top left to bottom right
extreme hot peeling wait 5seconds polymer still 50%(matte-gloss) but image only transfer 70%
hot peeling wait 10seconds polymer still 90%(matte) but image transfer 90%
warm peeling wait 15seconds polymer less than 10%(gloss) because window polymer go back to transfer paper and image transfer 80%
Waiting 15 seconds the transfer is hard to peel and tears apart. Some paper stays on the shirt. The window gets worse. Like the photo I had posted above. Waiting for 3 seconds worked better for me but still have slight polymer window. What I noticed is after the transfer is printed with laser printer the paper gets darker. I have the same issue when I tried other brands of transfer that had dark polymer window. It could be printer related. If that is true I guess I will stick with Imageclip. It is hard for me to justify buying a different printer to make just TrimFree work form when I have Imageclip that is truly self weeding.

Joto asked me to send 4 sheets that are printed with the same image above. They are going to do some testing. They claim that what I have is the first they have seen happening. So they are curious why I am getting that bad of polymer window.
Waiting 15 seconds the transfer is hard to peel and tears apart. Some paper stays on the shirt. The window gets worse. Like the photo I had posted above. Waiting for 3 seconds worked better for me but still have slight polymer window. What I noticed is after the transfer is printed with laser printer the paper gets darker. I have the same issue when I tried other brands of transfer that had dark polymer window. It could be printer related. If that is true I guess I will stick with Imageclip. It is hard for me to justify buying a different printer to make just TrimFree work form when I have Imageclip that is truly self weeding.

Joto asked me to send 4 sheets that are printed with the same image above. They are going to do some testing. They claim that what I have is the first they have seen happening. So they are curious why I am getting that bad of polymer window.
I agree with you it could be printer related. When I tried trimfree laser paper, I did not buy any laser printer as they had tested just used what I have Xerox docuprint c1110b which not have any bypass tray & heavy1 feature, after make it too many test just get the result. So infact always user should test new technology to get nice result.

Special color which can 80% stable for trimfree laser transfer paper only had tested at laser printer xerox docuprint c1110b which printer setting fine photo & paper type coated1
I just get tips from one of my friend which use trimfree laser transfer at laser printer oki c5600 but he refuse to send me any image result.
printer setting photo & paper type light (64-74g/m2)
press at 185C/365F 15-25second
peeling wait about 5second
hope this tips can be usefull to everyone who use trimfree laser transfer at laser printer oki c5600

compare with what I had done at laser printer xerox docuprint c1110b
printer setting fine photo & type coated1 (60-105g/m2), seems the same use thick instead of heavy
press at 165C/330F 30seconds, no doubt depends on t shirt
peeling wait 15second, seems the same as lnfortun way only 3second
Joto asked me to send 4 sheets that are printed with the same image above. They are going to do some testing. They claim that what I have is the first they have seen happening. So they are curious why I am getting that bad of polymer window.
The first they have seen.....I posted photos that showed that polymer window and spoke with them but it's the first they have heard of this happening.

OK...hummmm let us know how the testing goes.
The first they have seen.....I posted photos that showed that polymer window and spoke with them but it's the first they have heard of this happening.

OK...hummmm let us know how the testing goes.
seems everyone is more concern to reduce window polymer
I just try another step to reduce window polymer at black t shirt, after peeling trimfree laser transfer put wet fabric yarn (water pickup to 50%) which dimension a little bit more than your laser transfer above your image then press again after peeling you can see window polymer will reduce
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