[TableSyrup]

Ran 60 shirts last night. Half yellow, half Orange..

The Orange ones are super shiny. I don't have an issue with it, but curious if it overcured?

2 hits, on 100% cotton. P/f/p - pushstroked, flashed to 220-240.
Cured on conveyor and it was running between 320-340 passing under panel per my infrared therm.

Rutland ink... Not sure of specific series, can check tonight.
No additives.

 

[thutch15]

Some inks are made to have more of a sport gloss look.

 

[TableSyrup]

Thanx

I imagine if over-cured, the print gets 'brittle' ???

These stretch to twice the printed size before cracking, so I think I'm ok, and quite certain that they are at least cured

 

[thutch15]

I don't think it does. I remember one time that I had my temp at around 500 and the ink was pretty shinny, but held up for years on the shirt.

 

[Preston]

Usually if you over cure it will show signs of crocking or even fish eyes.

The gloss usually comes from too thick of an ink layer. This is not always the case but is usually the case.

Union makes a flattening additive, PLUS-9010, that you can add to ink to remove the glossiness of it. Union and Rutland are the same company, just different divisions, so there should also be a flattening additive under the Rutland name.

 

[JoshJ]

If I put a wet on wet layer I get a glossier print. Some inks just won't print with a dull finish though.

 

[TableSyrup]

Bahahahahaaaaa

You don't think it has anything to do with Justin Bieber and Usher bein all sneaky do ya????

I just noticed that.

Thanx guys! This has alleviated my concerns.
Job is done and out. All is well.

 

[tpitman]

I try to keep curing temp as low as possible and the ink layer as thin as possible, slowing belt speed to accommodate and still get a cure. Some inks will always have a bit of shine to the finish, but if you run the shirts hot, almost all of them will start to get glossy. I don't much care for it and do what I can to minimize it, not always successfully.

 

[Deathtricity]

I cure my shirts with a flash dryer and i can actually make my prints gloss or flat depending on how close i put my flash dry to the shirt while curing. if i cure it fast (flash dryer about 6 inches away) mine will gloss even with a very thin layer of ink, if i move the flash dryer up to about 12 to 14 inches away from the shirt and let the ink cure slower they never gloss up. even when the gloss they hold up very well for me. i have washed one shirt about 10 times and not a crack or fade or brittle at all. it saves me money on gloss additives or matt additives. lol i dont print for anyone just my own line of shirts so its my choice to do it this way. but if i was printing for customers i would use the additives to do it properly. hope this helps a bit.

 

[porkchopharry]

I cure my shirts with a flash dryer and i can actually make my prints gloss or flat depending on how close i put my flash dry to the shirt while curing. if i cure it fast (flash dryer about 6 inches away) mine will gloss even with a very thin layer of ink, if i move the flash dryer up to about 12 to 14 inches away from the shirt and let the ink cure slower they never gloss up. even when the gloss they hold up very well for me. i have washed one shirt about 10 times and not a crack or fade or brittle at all. it saves me money on gloss additives or matt additives. lol i dont print for anyone just my own line of shirts so its my choice to do it this way. but if i was printing for customers i would use the additives to do it properly. hope this helps a bit.

I'm doing my own line too. I use One Stroke inks Hybrid and Hybrid Colormax, they never gloss up. They're more expensive than most inks but they are consistent. Looks really nice. I'm not a huge fan of gloss myself. So I'm happy with the matte finish.

I cure with a flash too and man, I'm over it! Time for a conveyor. Just a time killer. Maybe if I had 2 flashes one for the press and one for the drying table it might be ok. But I only have the one flash. It's a 16x16 so I hate it even more. Mental note: Never buy less than an 18x18 flash ever, ever again.

 

[Deathtricity]

I'm doing my own line too. I use One Stroke inks Hybrid and Hybrid Colormax, they never gloss up. They're more expensive than most inks but they are consistent. Looks really nice. I'm not a huge fan of gloss myself. So I'm happy with the matte finish.

I cure with a flash too and man, I'm over it! Time for a conveyor. Just a time killer. Maybe if I had 2 flashes one for the press and one for the drying table it might be ok. But I only have the one flash. It's a 16x16 so I hate it even more. Mental note: Never buy less than an 18x18 flash ever, ever again.

I only have a 16x16 hahaha i cant complain I live in a apt. If i have a 13x19 print or larger, talk about a sweat box, i have to sit there with my flash almost 12" off the shirt. and move it back a forth WITH EVERY shirt, one at a time. it takes me all day to print 50 shirts. I keep telling myself its a labor of love, but I also love to sleep. but sleeping don't pay the bills. ha ha

 

[porkchopharry]

Same here takes me forever to do shirts, and you're doing it faster than me. My shop is tiny, but sounds like it's bigger than yours. I want to get the Vastex D-100 conveyor, perfect for a small place and not TOO expensive.

It sure is a labor of love. But man, I'd like to get them dried faster. What sucks is I can flash on the press, then I have to rotate the flash over to the "drying station" to cure. I took a 2x4 screwed it into a table and then screwed a cheap platen to it for my drying station. Works well, but when I go to put it back over my press platen, I have to make sure it is lined up ok. It's just a time killer. I think all my time is spent drying.

But you learn as you go right? Get what you can and upgrade as you can afford it. Make more shirt designs and see what sells, and then make some more. It's all a learning experience. I'm loving it though.

 

[railstud]

Guys I'm in the same boat. I cure with a flash dyer and I count to 53 and remove. Ya its a pain in my *** buy the little buddy is like 1500. Sometimes the shirt looks darker from the flash but it comes back when cools

 

[porkchopharry]

Guys I'm in the same boat. I cure with a flash dyer and I count to 53 and remove. Ya its a pain in my *** buy the little buddy is like 1500. Sometimes the shirt looks darker from the flash but it comes back when cools

Aren't you using a temp gun at least? Look on Amazon, pretty cheap.

The Little Buddy looks good, I've looked at it before. I'd probably pick one up if I found one used for a good price. Everyone around here lately is asking unrealistic prices for stuff right now though.

But for my little shop, the Little Buddy is really pushing it. The Vastex D-100 is perfect for a small shop, smaller footprint and same price, maybe a bit less. I have a Vastex press so I've got a good relationship with them and Advanced in Arizona.

Check it out though it's pretty cool: D-100 - Compact Entry Level Infrared Conveyor Dryer

 

[shifty apparel]

If I put a wet on wet layer I get a glossier print. Some inks just won't print with a dull finish though.

You can try adding Dulling paste to your ink that will help. Depending on the type of look you are going for i guess

 

[phatdaddy]

Yup, that's a print flash print red(orange) on black plastisol alright... Kinda yucky I agree, but that's the way it looks.

Over-cure will sort of bubble, get puffy then burn, then eat the shirt...

 

[NotGuiltyPress]

you hold the flash 12 inches from the shirt? You're mental. I've been 16 x 16 flash curing for 3 years, always between 2 inches for black and 4 inches for white, takes about 15-20 seconds, done about 30,000 shirts this way and had maybe 3 washout complaints and that was for huge designs where i used 2 flashes 2 do the top and bottom half.

Alas this week i am finally buying a panther dryer

 

[nekkron99]

Yep same problem here. I figured it was due to the print flash print process. If I let the ink cool down after the flash, would that help? It appears that previous comments leaned towards that.

 

[drscotty14]

when you print too much ink too thick, it can get shiny.