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Do I need to put anything down over top of my platens like Ryonets platen tape or am I good to go with just the rubber tops?
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Jay has a great point there--I've been stuck with web, never had much luck with that stuff for the loads of fleece we do (for very long, at least).
@Naptime: I have a newer sample of "Textac" I keep thinking I should try out--you do sweats with your stuff, or mostly tees?
How many times can you wipe it before you clean off too much to tack stuff down with? (You have me interested, now.
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It's funny, cause the old 'water based' adhesive I'd use would barely clean up with water--soaking and scrubbing, too much work in general. I usually ended up using solvents to clean it off anyway. It definitely worked longer than any web I've used for tees though.
@Naptime: I have a newer sample of "Textac" I keep thinking I should try out--you do sweats with your stuff, or mostly tees?
How many times can you wipe it before you clean off too much to tack stuff down with? (You have me interested, now.
)It's funny, cause the old 'water based' adhesive I'd use would barely clean up with water--soaking and scrubbing, too much work in general. I usually ended up using solvents to clean it off anyway. It definitely worked longer than any web I've used for tees though.
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Thanks for the reply's. I ended up using some platen tape I had got in my package deal and it seems to work really well.
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i do not do a lot of fleece. for that, i think i would still use the web.Jay has a great point there--I've been stuck with web, never had much luck with that stuff for the loads of fleece we do (for very long, at least).
@Naptime: I have a newer sample of "Textac" I keep thinking I should try out--you do sweats with your stuff, or mostly tees?
How many times can you wipe it before you clean off too much to tack stuff down with? (You have me interested, now.
It's funny, cause the old 'water based' adhesive I'd use would barely clean up with water--soaking and scrubbing, too much work in general. I usually ended up using solvents to clean it off anyway. It definitely worked longer than any web I've used for tees though.
for t's though... I've tried so many brands, and all seemed to be only good for 15 or 20 shirts before i had to respray.
i kept putting off the pv stuff because of the price.
but when i ordered last from one stroke, they had an 8 oz bottle of tekmar tekbond.. it was less than 10 bucks. i figured it was worth the try.
i put on ONE line of it, about the same size as a bead of caulk. down the center of my platen. then spread it around with the plastic spreader they sent with it.
i then did a run of 100 1 color front, 1 color back, gildan 5000's.
the next day, i had to do a run of 50 2 color front 2 color rear. the platen didn't feel sticky. i wiped it down with a wet sponge, and the lint started all coming up. i wiped it all away with a towel. then put my flash over the platen for about 10 seconds.
it felt sticky, so i did NOT add more.
i did the run.
that afternoon, i wiped the lint down again, re flashed it, and did three different singe color front 25 shirt runs.
the next day, i was going to try for another run, but it didn't feel quite sticky enough...
but ... when you consider front and backs.. i ran 375 shirts before i had to apply more glue..
and i used.. a single bead.. MAYBE 1/8 of an ounce.
i still have web for fleece. but i am positive i will be using this stuff for an awful long time.
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I've been using the double sided sticky platen tape but wanted to try the TexTac. I find the double sided platen tape to be far too tacky at first. It lasts a long enough time but I hate when it's fresh. I'd like to try regular platen tape and TexTac.
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Seven thousand is great. Textac is exactly what I have a sample of, I'll have to give it a shot when we don't have any fleece orders for a bit. Although Jay, you're probably getting bad web stuff if you can only get 15-20 T shirt impressions out of a web app--I use sprayway fast tack 85, and I've done 2000+ with one application--that's 200 per platen. Fleece, however, makes me paranoid--usually two or three impressions and then I re-apply--once you get some lint on there, the glue just seems to sink in. Too easy and fast to screw up a bunch of money if it draws up and mis-registers.
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Biggest beef with waterbased adhesives is they really stick until you get some lint on them. I dilute my TexTac with about half water. I've got a gallon jug I picked up at the ISS show about 8 years ago, and it isn't half used. I do some work in another shop in Daytona which has another brand that works as well. I think its Tekbond. Might even be better than TexTac. I never flash it after applying or reinvigorating. Much cleaner than the sprays. The lint that rolls off sweeps up clean.
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Does diluting it help to make it a bit less tacky at the start?
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I use and love textac. I haven't used any spray in over a year. Regular tees or fleece, no problem. A little goes a long way. I put it right on my pallet tape. Takes about 3 minutes to apply and lasts a really long time. After you first apply and flash, take a scrap shirt and dab it on the platens to put a bit of lint on it. then the tack is perfect. For fleece I usually leave it streaky when I flash. Kind of makes its own web.
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Where can I get this textac?
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Ryonet sells CCI Pro Bond, http://www.silkscreeningsupplies.com/product/CCProBondPhere.
This stuff is awesome.
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has anyone tried epdm rubber on top of their mdf platens. I had some laying around and i tested it by flashing over it a few times. I also did some research online to see how heat resistant it was and it rated a max temp. of 150 degrees c, that like 300 degrees Fahrenheit!! i got it cheap enough seems like a viable alternative to other stuff.
i'm not sure, what i do know is I've been trying it out on an old platen and it seems to be holding its own. i mean no warping. I guess they use it for gaskets and what not. I'm not trying to cure anything on it just for flashing purposes and protection for my platens.
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