[jimmy2]

My shop is considering acquiring a Brother GTX. We have had 2 units of EPSON F2000 for a couple of years. Basically, we are happy bout the EPSON F2000, especially the local technical support. However, we are now considering switching from EPSON to Brother, particularly because of the unparalleled printing speed and versatile printing capability.

Before we make the move, my boss would like to know the ROI. It seems the ROI calculator is no longer available at Brother's website. Does anyone happen to have a copy of source of that? Appreciate if one can share that information with me. Thanks!

 

[socceronly]

If you are happy with local technical support.... why on earth change......upgrade.

 

[jimmy2]

It is because the Brother can print on shoes and zippered hoodies and a lot more that EPSON can not. Unless the rumor is not true, otherwise why stick to EPSON while its competitor can do better than it does?

 

[tusa]

I have a GTX but I didn't know that I can do zipper hoodies and shoes...


But honestly, how many zipper hoodies and shoes do you do?

 

[4beesprinting]

I have a GTX but I didn't know that I can do zipper hoodies and shoes...


But honestly, how many zipper hoodies and shoes do you do?

Tusa, we have a gtx coming at the end of the month, does it use the same brother pretreat as our gt361? are you happy with the gtx?
Thanks

 

[tusa]

No, it’s a different pretreat.

We upgraded from 361 also. Print speed is much faster and quality is also better. We like it because maintenance is so much less on the GTX.

There are many people complaining about ink waste, but I feel like it’s not any more than the 361.

 

[4beesprinting]

Thanks. We've had our 361 for a little over 2 1/2 years and it has 32k prints on it. other than just normal maintenance the only thing we have had to replace is 1 white print head. we are planning to just use the 361 for color only when the gtx is up and running. did you keep your 361?

 

[tusa]

I only had around 15k prints in 3 yrs.

The GTX only prints at 1200 setting and it’s better and faster than GT-3 at 600 or 1200.

We were going to do the same and print white only but it just wasn’t worth it. So we sold it for cheap.

 

[tusa]

You did more than double what we did, so it might be worth it to keep it for busy days. Plus, with more than 30k prints, people will try to lowball you.

 

[4beesprinting]

Yeah we’re going to see if it’s worth it to keep. We are in a downtown brick and mortar or rt 66 and get quite a bit of tourist wanting one offs, so for quick cmyk prints it should be worth keeping, cause the maintenance should go way down when you take white out of the equation. Do you see better wearability with the gtx? Sorry to be so inquisitive

 

[tusa]

Wearability/washability is better than GT-3.

The White ink on colored shirts were pretty good on the GT-3, but I think GTX is even better.

The CMYK on white shirts is better than before, especially with two pass printing. But I do wish it was darker and more vibrant. The blacks are darker than GT-3, but it's still not pure black.

I actually ordered a gallon of Firebird Vibrant pretreat to test today.

I hate pretreating, but I might have to have that for customers who are willing to pay a little more for better prints on white shirts.

 

[equipmentzone]

It is because the Brother can print on shoes and zippered hoodies and a lot more that EPSON can not. Unless the rumor is not true, otherwise why stick to EPSON while its competitor can do better than it does?

FYI - both the Epson F2000 and the new Epson F2100 printers can print on shoes, zippered hoodies, golf and baseball caps, koozies and any item that any other dtg printer model can print on.

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[bradyboyy88]

I am sure even my ri 6000 can print on zipper hoodies but the question comes down to which can do it more effectively. From what I read the gtx has a more narrow spray range allowing a larger gap between print head and printing surface hence making a obstruction like a zipper not as sensotive. Equipmentzone Can you really say the epson f2100 can produce the same accuracy at the head to print surface distance as the gtx?

 

[Ghoster32111]

My shop is considering acquiring a Brother GTX. We have had 2 units of EPSON F2000 for a couple of years. Basically, we are happy bout the EPSON F2000, especially the local technical support. However, we are now considering switching from EPSON to Brother, particularly because of the unparalleled printing speed and versatile printing capability.

Before we make the move, my boss would like to know the ROI. It seems the ROI calculator is no longer available at Brother's website. Does anyone happen to have a copy of source of that? Appreciate if one can share that information with me. Thanks!

I have an f2000 and a gtx and while the gtx does "print" faster with its autocleans and recirculations and sub tank refills the F2000 is far faster overall even if you use a double pass of white with a 10second delay as to printing onto other substrates like shoes hats and zipper hoodies all you need is the right platen which exists for f2000 and GTX the distence from the head doesn't matter because either way you want it as close as possible and both GTX and F2000 have a height limit sensor . All you should do is invest in the proper platen and save thousands.

 

[gatorGRAFIX]

I am sure even my ri 6000 can print on zipper hoodies but the question comes down to which can do it more effectively. From what I read the gtx has a more narrow spray range allowing a larger gap between print head and printing surface hence making a obstruction like a zipper not as sensotive. Equipmentzone Can you really say the epson f2100 can produce the same accuracy at the head to print surface distance as the gtx?

The mentioned distance is very very minimal if truly at all. The Epson F2100 does indeed have a wider spray pattern (over the F2000) which is where it gets it's new speed gains from (along with a faster processor and some re-engineering under the hood). From what I have seen when DTG printing finely detailed artwork layouts the F2100 print quaility is usually superior to the GTX print. This is because the F2100 now has a smaller variable droplet size which greatly improves very fine DTG printing and the fact that the F2100 also prints at a higher dpi than the GTX does.

~I would like to add that I am not dissing the GTX at all. They are both amazing machines that make truly awesome prints, no doubt.