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Hey all, Its been awhile since i've printed myself but now i find myself back in the position where i'm taking it on myself. I was curious on which brand of White ink will work the best wit American Apparel Black fine jersey T's. Also the best way to heat set them? Like I said its been a few years so I'm not up on new techniques.
 

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I get great results with ryonet (matsui) opaque white, with discharge added. I do a single stroke, and it doesn't look well covered when I lift the screen, but once cured in a conveyor drier and the discharge does it's magic, it's a beautiful white and once washed it's got a fairly soft hand.
 

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Appreciate all the help, trying the ryonet discharge white tomorrow, I was curious about curing methods pertaining to the discharge ink. Money is an issue since all my funds are invested in my brand. Are heat guns out to cure the discharge, the image is only about 8x8
 

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Appreciate all the help, trying the ryonet discharge white tomorrow, I was curious about curing methods pertaining to the discharge ink. Money is an issue since all my funds are invested in my brand. Are heat guns out to cure the discharge, the image is only about 8x8. Any tips is much appreciated
 

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I was wondering if you got any helpful tips for curing discharge with a heatgun. Its my first go at it
It's pretty easy, you will see the ink curing, it's hard to mess up. Once it's printed it will look very dull and transparent. So if you messed up the print you can throw it in the wash and savage the shirt. Once you begin to cure it, it will start to look like it is suppose to, it changes before your eyes, it's very easy, hard to miss spots etc.
 

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If you are using a heat gun for discharge do you wear some kind of respirator? I hear it's not good to do inside your house because of the fumes/gas that it creates.
I would definitively not do it inside your home. I do it in my 2 car garage with the door open, a respirator, and a fan blowing it out the door away from me.

There is mixed information on the subject. My understanding is that the first generation discharges gave off formaldehyde during curing. but the newer generations of bases have formaldehyde scrubbers in the base to prevent the chemical from becoming airborne. The activator that gets added to the base is a complex formaldehyde zinc compound.

What is supposedly given off these days is a zinc surfer dioxide, it smells terrible, and I don't think it is healthy to breath in, but not as bad a formaldehyde.

Either way, I decided to be safe and get a respirator that stops formaldehyde (they are hard to find), lowes, home depot, ace, none of them carry one that does. You need to buy the mask and then the cartridges that block formaldehyde, I ordered mine from Grainger, I think the whole set up cost like 40 bucks, the cartridges are 10-15.

It completely blocks the smell of the ink, so I imagine it's blocking the chemicals it's giving off :). if nothing else it makes me working with it much more enjoyable. If you don't know anything about respirators they come blocking a slew of chemicals, you wont find one that just blocks formaldehyde, it will include it, and 10 other chemicals.
 

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Thanks for all the info, Tipe. My girlfriend works with respirators of different types all the time so i think she'll be able to use this info to quickly hook something up should we decide to try discharge inks. I am pretty sure this is how they are making these bandanas with white on black that are inspiring my girlfriend to start a line of bandanas. This info will definitely be very helpful.
 

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Ya i have a 3mm respirator with face mask, the fumes are ridiculous hah. Im interested in trying out the matsui opaque white on the AA fine jersey. Any advice/feedback on that choice?
 

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I love the matsui opaque white. It's thick but what good opaque white isn't. A little spritz of water on the ink every so often during printing and it flows nicely. Just make sure to blob the ink over the image between pulls if you walk away from it to keep the screen open. (this is a good time to spritz as well). I use a 156 screen for this white and get good coverage for bases but pfp for a white spot color on dark.
 
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