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I have been using cartridges and bagged ink for my r3000 printer for about a year with minimal problems (had a couple faulty cartridges initially).

I am wondering if there would be better inkflow if dampers were placed on the ink supply system instead of using cartridges?


Anyone do this with their R3000 or p600?
 

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I bought a P600 for doing the DTG conversion but haven't decided between T-Dozer and UFOPrint yet. Both offers great kits but with their own pros and cons. The most concerning part of taking the time and put the money on the investment is the print head clogging issues. I would like to know where to buy those dampers and if there's any forum or vendor who has the installation and setting instructions. Thank you in advance for any recommendations or advice on this matter.
 

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Don't think, get t-dozer, a growing community that helps each other.

I will post all what you want to know on t-dozer facebook page within 2 weeks, as I am waiting for parts for my last conversion step.


Could you please explain pros and cons for both models as I see more assets with the t-dozer
 

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Does any one know exactly what the pressure pump is doing in the R3000?

I know it is a gravity feed system. Is the pump just keeping the lines filled?

Excited to see if your damper system works out.
 

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Don't think, get t-dozer, a growing community that helps each other.

I will post all what you want to know on t-dozer facebook page within 2 weeks, as I am waiting for parts for my last conversion step.


Could you please explain pros and cons for both models as I see more assets with the t-dozer
First of all I want to thank you for your promptly reply.
As of the pros and cons I have seen (these are only my opinion) for both models, the Pros on the T-Dozer (which are cons for UFO) are that the kit is made and ship in the USA and that the board shows great built quality.
On the other hand, UFO offers the Avenger kit (probably an Avenger kit clone) with a metal base for up to A3 size, made with aluminum extrusion, spring and rubber lock platen and an industrial stepper motor. The metal base also has adjustable knobs for leveling. While UFO is overseas, they offer a 2 year warranty, they accept Paypal and offer free online resources (including RIP software). One thing I don't like too much about the UFO base is the external box with the buttons.
I couldn't find information regarding the T-Dozer base specs, I assume it is capable of up to A3 size too.
In terms of investment, the T-Dozer Hardware and Platen Kit with Wood Pieces and the electronics kit is around $1,298 + shipping. The UFO portable base with the conversion kit is $850 + $245 on shipping charges for a total of $1,095.
That's all I know fo now, in terms of both solutions..I think that the perfect solution would be a T-Dozer electronics kit with the UFO base and platen, LOL :)
I'm still analyzing both solutions and really want to know how to minimize the issue of the printhead clogging in order to build the whole thing right from the very start. This is one of my main concerns with DTG because, I have a small shop for now, so I'm not going to be using DTG on a daily basis and I want to minimize the maintenance as much as possible.
It's a pity that I don't use Facebook so I'm not going to be able to see your posts on the dampers solution. Do the T-Dozer community is only reachable through Facebook?
Thanks in advance for your experience based thoughts and recommendations, they are greatly appreciated
 

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First of all I want to thank you for your promptly reply.
As of the pros and cons I have seen (these are only my opinion) for both models, the Pros on the T-Dozer (which are cons for UFO) are that the kit is made and ship in the USA and that the board shows great built quality.
On the other hand, UFO offers the Avenger kit (probably an Avenger kit clone) with a metal base for up to A3 size, made with aluminum extrusion, spring and rubber lock platen and an industrial stepper motor. The metal base also has adjustable knobs for leveling. While UFO is overseas, they offer a 2 year warranty, they accept Paypal and offer free online resources (including RIP software). One thing I don't like too much about the UFO base is the external box with the buttons.
I couldn't find information regarding the T-Dozer base specs, I assume it is capable of up to A3 size too.
In terms of investment, the T-Dozer Hardware and Platen Kit with Wood Pieces and the electronics kit is around $1,298 + shipping. The UFO portable base with the conversion kit is $850 + $245 on shipping charges for a total of $1,095.
That's all I know fo now, in terms of both solutions..I think that the perfect solution would be a T-Dozer electronics kit with the UFO base and platen, LOL :)
I'm still analyzing both solutions and really want to know how to minimize the issue of the printhead clogging in order to build the whole thing right from the very start. This is one of my main concerns with DTG because, I have a small shop for now, so I'm not going to be using DTG on a daily basis and I want to minimize the maintenance as much as possible.
It's a pity that I don't use Facebook so I'm not going to be able to see your posts on the dampers solution. Do the T-Dozer community is only reachable through Facebook?
Thanks in advance for your experience based thoughts and recommendations, they are greatly appreciated

Support US made :) this is were all it come from, China are followers with some patent infringement and hacked RIP.

The price gap is not that high considering the better support in my opinion.

Think twice if DTG is for you, it is always better to print all day.
You need a humidity (50%) and temperature (71F) control environment, 7/7 all year.
Don't forget to get spares parts, this add extra cost.

Yep Facebook only for t-dozer, keep us updated of your choice.

I will post on TSF, expect to have my missing part within days.
 

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Support US made :) this is were all it come from, China are followers with some patent infringement and hacked RIP.

The price gap is not that high considering the better support in my opinion.

Think twice if DTG is for you, it is always better to print all day.
You need a humidity (50%) and temperature (71F) control environment, 7/7 all year.
Don't forget to get spares parts, this add extra cost.

Yep Facebook only for t-dozer, keep us updated of your choice.

I will post on TSF, expect to have my missing part within days.
That will be great if you post details on TSF. As you already said, price isn't a deciding factor.
When you say 50% humidity, Is it 50% or more or is it 50% or less? If it's 50% or more that's what I normally have where I live. If it's 50% or less then I'll have to add a dehumidifier.
I was considering DTG for a while because I receive a lot of dark tshirt orders and the dark transfers don't offer the quality of a DTG. Recently, I was contacted by a designer who is creating his tshirt design line. The DTG is perfect for his designs so it's time to move on my DTG project. At first I don't see me printing DTG daily, but that could change fast.
It would be great to have a list or a thread for posting spare parts recommendations for the DIY DTG printers.
Regarding the dampers replacement, a 3 month period sounds good and, from what I was researching, they aren't expensive if you buy them in bulk.
 

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I strongly advice you read read read, ask question to reseller and end user, take your time, figure out what means DTG printing.
You will read horrible storied and success one this is DTG world.
The more you know the less problem you will have.

For P600 or R3000 this is the parts list

MANDATORY
Ink chip - 2 full sets
cartridge - 1 full set
head ribbon cable - ($28.31) (easy to burn in case of ink spread)
dampers
Ink bag - Kentsystems
Quick coupling - Kentsystems

BETTER TO HAVE ON HAND
Head (circa $500)
Ink bay ($243.50)
Capping Station ($70.77)
Encoder strip ($13.11)
Ink Tube ( 1 8"OD x 1 16"ID - 3.2mm x 1.6mm)

TO FEEL SAFE
Power board ($47.53) (the 220V is compatible with 110V)
HOLDER CSIC ($6.03) because you will break some for sure.
Wiper blade

And if you found a cheap used printer get it.
I found one for $50 (R3000), so I have many many parts, cables, screws... I can pick up from in case of emergency.
 

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I strongly advice you read read read, ask question to reseller and end user, take your time, figure out what means DTG printing.
You will read horrible storied and success one this is DTG world.
The more you know the less problem you will have.

For P600 or R3000 this is the parts list

MANDATORY
Ink chip - 2 full sets
cartridge - 1 full set
head ribbon cable - ($28.31) (easy to burn in case of ink spread)
dampers
Ink bag - Kentsystems
Quick coupling - Kentsystems

BETTER TO HAVE ON HAND
Head (circa $500)
Ink bay ($243.50)
Capping Station ($70.77)
Encoder strip ($13.11)
Ink Tube ( 1 8"OD x 1 16"ID - 3.2mm x 1.6mm)

TO FEEL SAFE
Power board ($47.53) (the 220V is compatible with 110V)
HOLDER CSIC ($6.03) because you will break some for sure.
Wiper blade

And if you found a cheap used printer get it.
I found one for $50 (R3000), so I have many many parts, cables, screws... I can pick up from in case of emergency.
Great list. I took the corresponding notes. So, With an old R3000 I can get some most spare parts for the P600. A few days back I wrote an email to TDozer from their contact page. I asked a lot of questions but haven't received any feedback yet. Do those Kent Systems ink bags are refillable, so you buy the ink in bulk and refill as needed?
But you are only using the empty cartridges on the chips to trick the printer so why do you recommend to have a spare set of cartridges?

I'm going to contact T-Dozer again later on today
 

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I bought a P600 for doing the DTG conversion but haven't decided between T-Dozer and UFOPrint yet. Both offers great kits but with their own pros and cons. The most concerning part of taking the time and put the money on the investment is the print head clogging issues. I would like to know where to buy those dampers and if there's any forum or vendor who has the installation and setting instructions. Thank you in advance for any recommendations or advice on this matter.
I have knowledge of both systems and for sure I would go with the T-Dozer even tho the base is wood the overall performance and back up is far superior to that of the UFO and for sure you will not be receiving any form of hacked system/copy and you would not be insulted!
 

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Great list. I took the corresponding notes. So, With an old R3000 I can get some most spare parts for the P600. A few days back I wrote an email to TDozer from their contact page. I asked a lot of questions but haven't received any feedback yet. Do those Kent Systems ink bags are refillable, so you buy the ink in bulk and refill as needed?
But you are only using the empty cartridges on the chips to trick the printer so why do you recommend to have a spare set of cartridges?

I'm going to contact T-Dozer again later on today
Maybe they didn't reply because of ISS Atlantic City Show.

I gave you a standard list if you choose cartridge, If you go the dampers way, just change the name :)

For kentsystems It is a male / femal shutoff system, very useful, easy to refill. You need 1/16" barb for ink tube ID 1/16" - OD 1/8".
There are video on youtube. With the right syringe

This model is perfect

 
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