Question on cap trying to embroidery on

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momof2

Discussion Starter · Jul 9, 2010

Hi I am needing any advice on trying to stitch out a cap. I have had it digitized twice by two different companies and it still looks terrible when I stitch it out on a cap. I have had a tech come look at my embroidery machine and he said everything is working well and we are doing everything right. And it looks like the digitizer, so he told us a guy to use and we get file back and it stitches out terrible. I am newbie to this but I feel like we have done everything to fix this problem and without luck the caps look terrible!! Tell me is caps almost impossible to make look good? I have SWF new single head machine,

Thanks so much for any advice!

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bungy

· #2 · Jul 9, 2010

Caps are generally, not difficult items to stitch.

Post a pic of a cap you have stitched with this design so we can see what you mean.

lizziemaxine

· #3 · Jul 9, 2010

Can you attach a DST file of the design? Let some of us look at the file and see if we can figure out what's wrong with it.

laz0924

· #4 · Jul 11, 2010

what size needles? what type of backing, thread?

momof2

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 13, 2010

Hi,

Thanks for the response.
I am using the needles swf said to use on when stitching on caps.I am also using thread that swf sold me with my machine. I know I am new and still learning. I will go to shop in morning and attach my digitized file and picture of my caps I have stitched on. I appreciate any help!!!
Thank You!

Melissa

momof2

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jul 13, 2010

Also I am using regular backing and they told me use 4 strips behind hat it very thick.

Thanks Again for you help!!!

laz0924

· #7 · Jul 13, 2010

If the hat is very thick I would use just 1 layer of 3 oz tearaway and the needled should be 80/12 hope this helps

ptmoore

· #8 · Jul 13, 2010

My advice would be the same as above, but also be sure the hat is hooped correctly. The stabilizer I use is Oesd-sticky . It created a smoothed out surface for the inside of the cap, any folds or wrinkles can be smooth out. The stabilizer should never be to thick as you are allowing the machine to stitch the design and not fight the garment/stabilizer as it stitches from center> out to create the design. Be patient it does take some practice.

momof2

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jul 13, 2010

Hi All,

Ok here is a picture of what I am trying to stitch see what you guys think. I own the SWF /E-T1501C Embroidery machine.I am using the SWF cap hoop I bought from them.I am doing everything they showed me and have had a tech come look to see if I am hooping cap correctly and everything is set right on my machine, he told me I was and it was my digitizer. So here I am using new digitizer and still my cap looks terrible!I will attach the dst file also!!
Thank you! Thank you!For any advice and help this forum has been awesome!!

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momof2

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jul 13, 2010

Also I am not sure how to load the dst file for you all to look at...

Thanks!
Melissa

zoom_monster

· #11 · Jul 13, 2010

Mellisa, How tall is the design? Also it looks as if you could go a little closer to the brim. Some digitizers will digitize "as is" even if some elements are too thin or are not optimized for reproduction via embroidery. It would be easier to see and test if you posted the file itself. The design is fairly simple as designs go, other than the way the C&G is broken into two colors. The satin oval looks kind of funky.

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thutch15

· #12 · Jul 13, 2010

Yeah looks real high on the hat.

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laz0924

· #13 · Jul 13, 2010

Why are you so high on the hat lower the design on your machine, trace it so you see where it is going to sew.
Probably the top looks bad because it pulls the cap when you are up so high, try lowering the stitch area about 1/4 to 3/8 above the brim, then see how it does.

FatKat Printz

· #14 · Jul 13, 2010

I have the same machine.. how fast are you going?? Also, if you are using the sample thread that came with the machine that could be an issue too.. all my sample thread tore and caused problems when doing any jobs. I used them for tests but never for a job. I have no idea how old my thread was when i got it but brand new thread always flows better and cuts better

Some helpful advice:

make sure you are oiled up on all areas (especially where the bobbin is~ that little piece of cotton)

make sure bobbin is threaded correctly (do the drop test).

I hate doing hats.. its a process. When you trace out your design do not just look at it..pull the presser foot down and follow the design with your finger. If you are too low or not in the middle you can damage your machine by hitting that bar.

Do you have the quick hoop set or the ones that require clips?? make sure they are pulled tight. I understand the tech came and said everything is ok.. but you will find that your machine has a mind of its own.

what kind of hat is it?? I found that the cheaper hats (from Sanmar) always sewed out funny.. quality hats sew much better.

I know you have spent a lot of money trying to figure this out.. trust me I have been there and done that.

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bungy

· #15 · Jul 14, 2010 (Edited)

momof2 said:
Also I am not sure how to load the dst file for you all to look at...

Thanks!
Melissa

Melissa
right click the dst file --> send to --> compressed
save as zip file and post as attachment.
see attached screenshot

Hope it makes sense.

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Teamwear

· #16 · Jul 14, 2010

You may need to also adjust the bobbin tension and slow the machine down.

Is the design starting in the center of the cap?
Also-make sure the cap is tight in the frame.

It is a little high on the cap too. You only have so much room to clear the yoke.

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momof2

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jul 14, 2010

zoom_monster said:
Mellisa, How tall is the design? Also it looks as if you could go a little closer to the brim. Some digitizers will digitize "as is" even if some elements are too thin or are not optimized for reproduction via embroidery. It would be easier to see and test if you posted the file itself. The design is fairly simple as designs go, other than the way the C&G is broken into two colors. The satin oval looks kind of funky.

Hi,
I believe the design is 2.5"x2.5" . Yes I agree it can go closer to the brim. I did move it closer on other caps(I have stitched out several trying get this to work)LOL...
I will try and post the dst file. See what you think. The oval around
C & G suppose to be a rope. And the C & G inside outline is suppose look like a horseshoe.

Thanks for your help!
Melissa

momof2

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jul 14, 2010

FatKat Printz said:
I have the same machine.. how fast are you going?? Also, if you are using the sample thread that came with the machine that could be an issue too.. all my sample thread tore and caused problems when doing any jobs. I used them for tests but never for a job. I have no idea how old my thread was when i got it but brand new thread always flows better and cuts better

Some helpful advice:

make sure you are oiled up on all areas (especially where the bobbin is~ that little piece of cotton)

make sure bobbin is threaded correctly (do the drop test).

I hate doing hats.. its a process. When you trace out your design do not just look at it..pull the presser foot down and follow the design with your finger. If you are too low or not in the middle you can damage your machine by hitting that bar.

Do you have the quick hoop set or the ones that require clips?? make sure they are pulled tight. I understand the tech came and said everything is ok.. but you will find that your machine has a mind of its own.

what kind of hat is it?? I found that the cheaper hats (from Sanmar) always sewed out funny.. quality hats sew much better.

I know you have spent a lot of money trying to figure this out.. trust me I have been there and done that.[/QUOTE

Hi,
Thanks for you info and advice. I didn't know of a quick hoop set.I have the one that has clips from SWF.I bought hat from Otto and its a flex fit hat.I was told in training go about 600 to 650 on hats. And then the tech the other day said 750... Also I never changed but a few of thread colors out. They said they were all new.Should I change them out? I did put all new needles for ball caps, thats what they told me I needed heavier sharper needle.And about the bobbin in training they said it should drop and stop have some tension.The tech the other day said no way it should be tight and almost never drop. So seems like its hard to tell what I should be doing on some things just trial and error.

Thank You for your help!!
I am going to try and upload dst file.
Melissa

cryman

· #19 · Jul 14, 2010

Melissa upload the .dst file. it would let us here check out the embroidery file trims and ties and how much under lay is used don't forget tie off as such in away especially for caps as from looking at your picture that cap should have been easy to do providing the backing and frame is right and also the embroidered file used is all the factor you need for successful cap embroidery

by the way did you tell the digitizer the design was for an cap?
did the digitizer ask you what garment you are using for the design?

momof2

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jul 14, 2010

Here is the dst file finally!LOL

Thanks for all your help!!!

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