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Since starting FYF we've REALLY learned a lot as our company has expanded - what a blast! We've found AMAZING suppliers (Spectra Perform Cut, Top Dog Films Results Fusion Cut etc.) that perform very well specifically on performance apparel/activewear with spandex and polyster.

HOWEVER... the same IS NOT TRUE of being able to source an ultra-high quality dependable supplier for casual type clothing made from cotton, cotton and polyester 50/50 blends, or the super-soft tri-blends of cotton/poly/rayon.

We've found some heat-transfer materials that have been acceptable enough to pass to the customer, but that's FAR from good enough. We'd like a material that can impress customers. As our company grows we're shipping out internet orders every day, it's crucial that we set a high bench-mark of quality initially and after the customer has washed their apparel several times...

***PLEASE HELP BELOW***
  • What company/supplier provides material with a sticky-backing that is dependable and durable above all the others over the long run: Avoiding lifting and wrinkling [SEE ATTACHED PICTURES]:confused: :D

We'll pay more for vinyl/polyurethane for better end-results. Our reputation and pride in our designs = ABOVE ALL ELSE! Thanks so much for your help, this is out last step before phase-2 in our brand's development, so we're hoping there's a great solution, because Stahl's and Siser [AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE PICTURES] are flat-out embarrassing after just 2-3 washes. :mad:
 

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as mentioned in that other post we will be pressing casual tee's today
i'll cut an extra design for a test tee and begin trialing on casuals

some of those pics look like overkill on the temp/time/pressure
but that is not to say the problems would be alleviated if you only did this and this

on my test tee the first tiny wrinkles began showing up around 25 washes, which was ok, because nothing was lifting
but that thermoflex never wrinkled, so i began upping my temps on wash and dry trying to see when it would start wrinkling
the other vinyls started wrinkling worse and small tips began lifting, but the thermoflex just kept on trucking
you saw the pic, it's up over 60 wash/dry cycles and looks like a fresh press

will the turbo/one-4-all achieve that type of longevity?
that remains to be seen, but based on the above it stands a good chance
i will be seeing the tee's i'm pressing today all the time, so i can monitor and question the wearers as far as their wash/dry regiments

get some samples and do as many test wash/dry cycles as you can in a short period
i would aim for min. 12 before committing to any product
definitely the joto/thermoflex turbo, and the chemica revolution and quickflex should be on your test tee
 

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some of those pics look like overkill on the temp/time/pressure
That's amazing how you can tell. When we started seeing quality/longevity issues with our casual apparel designs, we thought additional time would fix the problem. Are you saying less-is-more? This could be the first step in fixing the issues for sure, we lowered our temps to stop burning apparel, and increased time (like a slide-rule relationship). While it might just be user-error to a point, we've really never been happy with anything on casual thus far...but then again, we should just go to ThermoFLEX and call it a success from everything you've shared!!

but that thermoflex never wrinkled, so i began upping my temps on wash and dry trying to see when it would start wrinkling the other vinyls started wrinkling worse and small tips began lifting, but the thermoflex just kept on trucking you saw the pic, it's up over 60 wash/dry cycles and looks like a fresh press
Ok...EXACTLY what material is this, and we'll place our order and never look back. We appreciate your help and suggestions big time on the turbo, chemica, and quickflex, but whatever you're specifically talking about above surviving and looking brand new after 60 washes on cotton and blends, we're all in!! If ThermoFLEX performs as good on performance wear as well, we'll consolidate ALL of our ordering to just one brand - win win (thoughts)?

definitely the joto/thermoflex turbo, the chemica revolution and quickflex should be on your test tee
After your amazing review and testimonial on the ThermoFLEX above, the only reason we'd EVER looks elsewhere is for lower-temperature applications...we don't want to have crisp clean durable wrinkle-free designs AND BURNT CLOTHING!!! Haha. We've found that ~280 degrees is the perfect mix of adhesion and avoiding burn/scorch-marks, but we have to increase the TIME of the press,
so maybe that's a factor in our wrinkling?
Please see above - THANKS AS ALWAYS
 

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here

follow this

the only thing i would do differently is to buy a better brush,
for testing i just bought a dollar store one and it ejected little hairs (not a big deal, just bothersome)
try to get one of the more velvet/fabric ones to alleviate that issue
Chalkboard eraser over the carrier before peeling?

We've used Teflon sheet since day-1, literally. Maybe we should switch to parchment, I heard it can help with burn marks somehow.
 

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here is another use for parchment
i've got a table full of designs for pressing today, all separated by parchment
you can save these for your next round of weeding or use for when you press

depending on your workflow, and if you like to weed many at once or weed one and press

(and if you are really frugal, you save all your wrinkled/spent papers from pressing to use as separators)
 

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