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It's going to be one year with my mP5 in a couple of weeks and I thought it would be a good idea to share what I found as it may help others.

First, DTG is amazing! I don't regret for a minute having entered this market. The learning curve is quite steep but when you start to master it, it is incredibly rewarding.

The mP5i is an interesting machine; I LOVE printing on white/light colors as I find it has great quality and it's fast. I am doing more and more jobs on it and I am even considering adding a night shift to make it run even more (my turnaround time is a week and a half atm with it running 8 hours a day).

Unfortunately I had to give up on dark colors; we don't do one-offs so those incredible profit margins are out of the way. We do actual production! 20/50/100 shirt runs (in a poor-ish country), which makes our profit margins be lower than what I usually see here.
Dark colors always gave us a lot of problems; we would be doing a 20 piece job and by the 4th or 5th shirt the colors would be different. It was just not consistent.
We always had a terrible time printing reds properly. Blues were also a problem. The white lines kept clogging out of nowhere (even when we were half way through a production, what made stoppage time a massive problem).
On top of this, the pre treatment procedure and drying times were always a pain. In fact, I believe that you can't do dark shirts properly (long runs) if you don't have a pre-treatment machine and a conveyor belt for drying. Most small businesses cannot afford to buy this. Some people charging $20 per shirt might have the time or the energy to endure with dark prints but doing long runs it cannot be done.


Since October we gave up on dark shirts so we're only doing white/light colors. I have to tell you it is the best decision we could make! We have NO PROBLEMS working with it all day, every day. Mondays are not a nightmare anymore (we would come back from the weekend and spend the whole morning trying to unclog the white lines) and a simple clean is enough to have it working. The profit margins are HUGE, the work involved it pretty much non existent (load in the shirt, press print, load off the shirt, press it). We're doing 150/200 shirts a day sometimes.


This is pretty much my experience with it.
Knowing what I know today I WOULD NOT buy the mP5i; even though it's a beautiful machine and it prints incredibly well, it's still a 25.000€ machine for printing white t-shirts! I am sure I could have bought a similar machine for half that much and would still be happy with it.

Different people in different markets might have different experiences; this is mine, the decisions I made dropping the white ink are my own.
We are moving into a new facility and we'll have a conveyor belt for screen printing; I am considering purchasing a second hand pre-treatment machine and give dark shirts a second try. It bothers me having this kind of machine only doing light colored shirts.
 

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Its a few key steps to printing darks with the Mpower. We print on more dark shirts than light shirts at my shop. The Mpower can produce amazing dark prints. MZDEELO is awesome when it comes down to helping Anajet customers out. I will always help out when I can, but I wouldnt give up on the whites. Its probably small things that needs adjusting. You can find a few good key people on here to walk you through issues. If you spent 25k, you need to make to most out of it. Ive attached just a sample of a dark print that we ran. You have an amazing machine, I hope you can later use it to its max capabilities.
 

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Its a few key steps to printing darks with the Mpower. We print on more dark shirts than light shirts at my shop. The Mpower can produce amazing dark prints. MZDEELO is awesome when it comes down to helping Anajet customers out. I will always help out when I can, but I wouldnt give up on the whites. Its probably small things that needs adjusting. You can find a few good key people on here to walk you through issues. If you spent 25k, you need to make to most out of it. Ive attached just a sample of a dark print that we ran. You have an amazing machine, I hope you can later use it to its max capabilities.
Dang! Look at your red! Now I am going to have to try to discuss trade secrets with you!
 

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Mine prints a perfect white. I have a viper 6000 for pretreat and use image armor.
However. top color on white often leaves streaks which makes me want to give up on darks.
I have found legacy fixes this problem but sometimes colors in legacy are off by a lot.

I didn't pay 25,000 though. I knew the risk. I have it working well most of the time. But I do a lot of one offs, so I need a machine that I can trust to print the right color.

Againn if I just printed white shirts or white ink it is perfect. But it shouldn't be so hard to print on top off white ink.
 

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That's a rip issue. Try printing on regular setting not legacy . After you print your white base, cancel the print job and print the same print cmyk over it and see if issue still happens. I had the same issue a few months back.
 

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That's a rip issue. Try printing on regular setting not legacy . After you print your white base, cancel the print job and print the same print cmyk over it and see if issue still happens. I had the same issue a few months back.
Interesting. So cancel after white is printed, than bring up a new file for top color but as if you were printing on a white shirt?

Anajet said it was the rip and they were working on the problem. But I didn't believe them because I was told it was 10 other things too:)
 

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Interesting. So cancel after white is printed, than bring up a new file for top color but as if you were printing on a white shirt?

Anajet said it was the rip and they were working on the problem. But I didn't believe them because I was told it was 10 other things too:)
Yes, or just tell the rip to print underbase only. Then print the same exact file in cmyk only. See if you get a good color pass.

The techs didnt have a solution. I have a few for that issue.
 

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Be nice. :) We are working on the RIP and and there is progress. There is no longer a hard color step when you are printing smooth gradients. I'll keep you guys posted when I witness more.

I'm on vacation right now but I always find myself looking at the forums just in case.

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Be nice. :) We are working on the RIP and and there is progress. There is no longer a hard color step when you are printing smooth gradients. I'll keep you guys posted when I witness more.

I'm on vacation right now but I always find myself looking at the forums just in case.

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Its not the gradients that have the issues. Its the smooth color block. Ive seen it happen more with big blocks of 1 color. And sorry for sounding rude to the techs. Some of the techs are great but some, you can tell they are reading from a script. I get a little upset when I call in and I know more information than them. I guess I expect them to be Anajet gods, when really they are just trying to explained what they have learned. There is no better training than hands on running the machines for endless hours, and working on it for thousands of hours, haha. jk.... I love those machines. We just cranked out 700 prints in a order that we was only given 24hrs to complete. Probably 5 head cleans the entire run. When they go, they go hard.
 

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Its not the gradients that have the issues. Its the smooth color block. Ive seen it happen more with big blocks of 1 color. And sorry for sounding rude to the techs. Some of the techs are great but some, you can tell they are reading from a script. I get a little upset when I call in and I know more information than them. I guess I expect them to be Anajet gods, when really they are just trying to explained what they have learned. There is no better training than hands on running the machines for endless hours, and working on it for thousands of hours, haha. jk.... I love those machines. We just cranked out 700 prints in a order that we was only given 24hrs to complete. Probably 5 head cleans the entire run. When they go, they go hard.
That's a crap ton of shirts! Only 24 hours? What the... Hope you got paid good!
 

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Lol exactly what I was thinking.

There should be more revisions to the RIP I just haven't been able to personally test it yet. I was just explaining what I did see the other day.

Techs have a protocol that they have to follow. You'd be surprised on how many people get the most simplest and common things wrong. And hey... I trained and worked with most of those techs myself. So I do gotta feel defensive for my boys. :)





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Trained and worked with. I started off in the samples department and most of the techs started in samples in well. So they've printed thousands and samples and maintained printers. I initially trained them but they put in the time when it comes to experience. :)

Then they went into the wonderful world we call Tech Land. But some techs do have humility and come ask me print and fabric related questions since Im the only one who has experience prior to AnaJet

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