[scotney86]

Had this sent through on an email shot today from Printwear & Promotion.

It seems Resolute DTG have raised the bar in Next Gen DTG Printers by creating a hybrid system that uses a White ink that requires no pre-treat on dark cottons and polyester.

Resolute DTG – The first DTG hybrid system with no pre-treatment for dark cotton & polyester - Printwear & Promotion – garment decoration and promotional clothing/merchandise news & information

 

[treefox2118]

Holy moly.

 

[Smalzstein]

Discharge I assume.

 

[treefox2118]

Who needs lungs long term, right?

Was kinda hoping it was CMYKWPWP but I guess we aren't there yet.

I'm hopeful that we will see a feasible saline pretreat that can be put down just ahead of white inline. Thought Firebird would do it first but Resolute has been on top of the IP game just as long.

 

[Smalzstein]

White on wet PT makes print quality terible:/

This is the biggest drawback of Kornit.

 

[treefox2118]

Wet on wet with previous tech sure does. But I'm certain that challenge will be overcome "soon". Let's hope!

 

[treefox2118]

I should mention that the combination of "hybrid" and "higher quantities" and "registration" means it'll be a process similar to screen underbase + DTG CMYK.

So it won't likely be plastisol or DuPont, we have to assume it's another method. It'll support cotton darks and polyester -- assume it isn't discharge, either. Registration isn't easy with any of the current hybrids.

You also will be limited to the identical artwork for the hybrid model. Not for one offs.

 

[allamerican-aeoon]

It can be possible. Actually all can be possible.
It started by Mimaki and many are followed but no one yet succeed. Maybe Rjet will?
Azon was in and quit recently too.
Have to go over Print Quality, odors, health, shelve life, fungus, jet able without clog, still requires white ink(Ti02) etc. Bleaching make fabric weak. Weak bleaching will not discharge base color well. Wet on wet = less quality. We learn this from screen printing time. Cannot go around this. Basic never changes.
Well Media is Media. Not research just copy what interviewer wrote.
But always, possible. Best luck to Rjet.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.

 

[Resolute DTG]

Discharge I assume.

I cannot give much info for obvious reasons, where I can I will answer.

We're not doing anything with discharge.

Regards

Colin

 

[MauiCustomTshirt]

Anxious to hear more about this printer!

 

[identityprinting]

Another one out of the bag of tricks Colin!! lol
Just when we thought we were up to date with the technology !
Oh well down to the bank for another loan lol.
seriously though, this, like DTG could be the next revolution.

 

[Resolute DTG]

Another one out of the bag of tricks Colin!! lol
Just when we thought we were up to date with the technology !
Oh well down to the bank for another loan lol.
seriously though, this, like DTG could be the next revolution.

Hi Leo,

The hybrid is very exciting, you don't need to worry about being up to date with technology. Your R-Jet 5's were built with this upgrade in mind. When the R-Jet 5's fully patented transport system was re designed from the R-4 we made it multi engine compatible. We weren't joking when we said it was built for the future

Any print engine can be used to drive it, including adding the new hybrid. Once available we can perform a simple upgrade to add the new technology and you have the best of both worlds.

Existing R-Jet 5 owners will be invited to a special open day to see the technology in action before it is officially unveiled.

Regards

Doctor Colin

P.S. I am not sure on my new nickname but it seems to be sticking thank you JB

 

[CanExplorer]

Exciting news!

 

[jgabby]

So if I understand the hybrid system will not be ok for any kind of job ?
Is this the reason you will need the best of both world ?


That must be a low cure ink to tackle dye migration on dark polyester.


If someone could effectively removed the pretreat process that should be great?

 

[jgabby]

Valloy had this kind of ink, don't know why we don't see it widely on the market

 

[Resolute DTG]

So if I understand the hybrid system will not be ok for any kind of job ?
Is this the reason you will need the best of both world ?


That must be a low cure ink to tackle dye migration on dark polyester.


If someone could effectively removed the pretreat process that should be great?

The R-Jet 5 can print using either process, it is only economical to run for a quantity greater than approx ten.

One offs will be better using pre treat and the traditional white ink. Once you need speed and more than ten shirts, switch processes, same artwork, you just have to tell the RIP.

You can produce one offs using the hybrid process, but with the best of both worlds the idea is you use the quickest most economical method available

This also allows a printer to be standard price with the upgrade option when business takes off.

Regards

Doctor Colin

 

[Captain Hook]

The R-Jet 5 can print using either process, it is only economical to run for a quantity greater than approx ten.

One offs will be better using pre treat and the traditional white ink. Once you need speed and more than ten shirts, switch processes, same artwork, you just have to tell the RIP.

You can produce one offs using the hybrid process, but with the best of both worlds the idea is you use the quickest most economical method available



This also allows a printer to be standard price with the upgrade option when business takes off.

Regards

Doctor Colin

Just glad I decided to go with Resolute, I am a newbie but it looks like a serious game changer. I love my new R-Jet, this is just icing on the cake.

 

[Smalzstein]

Screen printed underbase maybe?

 

[allamerican-aeoon]

Screen printed underbase maybe?

Everyone's dream.
MHM, M&R and others tried but no one succeed.
Discharge is done by so many also. Azon in Croatia did most of it recently but again failed. I am pretty sure similar source are on table. AA did also in past but for now Dupont is the best answer. Aware shelve life, opacity, wash, fabric eating up etc. No vibrant is dead shirts. No pretreat at all! But What a wonderful idea?
Speed? Now 3 second A4 printing is here at $0.05 -0.12 ink usage. Faster than screen print. Max out human shirt feeding speed.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.

 

[treefox2118]

I understand that Colin can't disclose the hybrid process until the patents are filed and accepted, but I would be surprised if it was a screen printed method due to the required hardware a shop would need to create the screens and reclaim them. Possibly some kind of vinyl "emulsion" might work -- higher cost to setup, disposable mesh?

The key to all of this is in one word of the release: "registration". My assumption will be that the white underbase is imprinted onto a garment on the platen that is registered to both the white ink printer and the DTG printer. By keeping the garment on the same platen, registration is easier, unless the white ink process happens while the platen is in the loading position, just before it's taken up by the printer. But if the process involves segregated machines, one garment can be "white imprinted" while the previous garment is CMYK printed, and then the platens are swapped. That could be quite speedy even for one operator.

Flexographic? Polyolefin? So many ideas and no confirmations yet, boo.

On the other hand, there have been more patents filed by Sakata for both pretreatment and for white textile ink -- both of which look to be patented to cover printing on rayon, polyester, etc. The technical details of those patents are different (of course) than the recent patent approval by Kornit.

The future of white underbase printing is ever changing, and I'm excited to watch it happen. It's a good reason to stash some savings away just in case an OEM does come out with a process that reduces labor burden by an order of magnitude -- it could be a game changer.