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Newbie having trouble developing first screen

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First, hello all. I'm new to doing my OWN silk screening, but not necessairly new to the whole process. I own my own graphics shop and have been subbing out my silk screening until now. I bought out a friend of mine who had basically new equipment. I'm using all new chemicals and emulsion. I've got an Odyssey Lumitron developing unit. On a basic design, I'm putting the screen in for 3 minutes. I'm using a CCI Dual Core Emulsion. The "flat" side of the screen that's next to the glass exposes fine and washes out fine, the other "working side" gets slimey when I wash it out. What gives? To much time, not enough? I've tried it twice with the exact same results. I'm getting good at applying emulsion, but frustrated. Thanks.
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You're almost certainly not exposing quite long enough. Exposure time for you is likely different than exposure time for me (depending upon emulsions and exposure lamp efficiency)...but I can tell you with confidence that it's not an EXACT science. With my setup, at least, I have good 5 minute window within which my screens expose just fine.

So...if I were you, I'd bump exposure time up a few minutes and see what kind of result you get. The working side of the screen is usually a bit tackier after washout...but you certainly shouldn't be seeing much (if any) emulsion wiping away if you were to take a paper towel to it.

Before you know it, you'll have the screen burning process perfected. As with anything, it just takes a bit of trial and error.
Thanks. What happens if I expose it to long? Is it like having remover dry and lock the emulsion? Or does it just break down along the edges? Sorry for the probably basic questions. Ask me about sign vinyl and we're good! Screen printing, not so much.:)
I've rarely exposed a screen to the point where I've ruined it. But then again, the artwork I do contains mostly hard edges...no halftones/feathering.

As you pass the ideal exposure time, you tend to loose a little detail as light is allowed more of an opportunity to seep around the corners of the printed portions of your transparency and cure more and more of the emulsion. This isn't usually a huge deal unless you are exposing half-tone dots or very fine lines/details. Also, if you overexpose, the stenciled portions tend to become increasingly difficult to wash out...though not impossible if you have a decent pressure washer.

I have a home-made exposure unit that has done very well for me...and when I expose, I tend to err on the side of over-exposure. Obviously you don't want to overexpose significantly, but like I said in my last post...you should have a fairly forgiving window of time where you will get more than adequate results.

If you over-expose just a little...wet your screen on both sides, leave it to sit for a couple minutes, then blow that baby out with a pressure washer. Cold water from a distance of no closer than a foot should keep the water pressure from having an adverse effect on the stencil.

So if you're doing straight-forward art like I do...you'll rarely over-expose a screen unless you're narcoleptic and fall asleep mid-job.
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ok. Just tried it for five minutes. Not as bad but the same results. Then the emulison started to krinkle real bad due to me overwashing it with the pressure washer I think. More time? I watched the video on youtube of this unit and they even said three minutes which made me think that that was the ideal time. I've tried to follow the directions to the letter thus far, just kind of frustrating. It's big bold letters too. I tried to pick something easy.
ok. Just tried it for five minutes. Not as bad but the same results. Then the emulison started to krinkle real bad due to me overwashing it with the pressure washer I think. More time? I watched the video on youtube of this unit and they even said three minutes which made me think that that was the ideal time. I've tried to follow the directions to the letter thus far, just kind of frustrating. It's big bold letters too. I tried to pick something easy.
Whay you can do is wash out your screen so you get your image out @ your 3 min exposure,then dry it and re-expose the squegee side to harden it if you really can't overcome this problem.:)
it sounds like it never dried.....
I'm just drying the screens in a light safe cabinet, no extra heat and it's about 70 in the basement. I exposed one for 10 min last night and still have the same prob. I'm using transparancies for my artwork. I even washed it out with a spray bottle instead of a pressure washer.
What if there was a problem with the diazo sensitizer? I used a home made distilled water instead of store bought because we didn't have any. I followed the directions i found on the net, would that make a difference?
What if there was a problem with the diazo sensitizer? I used a home made distilled water instead of store bought because we didn't have any. I followed the directions i found on the net, would that make a difference?
doesnt matter it should be ok. how long are u letting it dry for? what kinda exposer are u using? after exposing the screen wet both sides let set for a few sec and then wash out
Sounds like you may be putting the emulsion on a little thick. If its krinkling/puckering in the center (not along the edges), its definitely too thick.
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