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I'd also point out that RIPs have had time to be tweaked to achieve these kind of results. The image I posted above was taking the image in GC and printing, nothing else. Tweaks can be made in GC to get better contrasts and different color settings, much like a RIP. So for this to be out of the box with tweaks made and saved, even better results can be achieved with a click.

As I said before, a RIP can speed up the print times when not using white ink and any speed increases when using white ink are nominal. So there are still benefits to using a RIP, I just don't believe it's an absolute must for everyone.
 

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As to ink cost, that is a slippery slope. You are trusting the RIP authors to be both accurate and HONEST in ink use. My motto is trust but verify by actually weighing carts or bags after a dozen+ shirts of the same design. That is the only way to be sure. I wouldn't trust the RIPs, to much of an interest in the outcome. I am not implying that any of the RIP manufacturers are dishonest, but stuff happens.
 

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All real will arrive here shortly. All dealers are starting to shipping out. AA made AAEpsonFamily 7 so far. All RIPs are on testing stage vs. GC. Issue is Epson does not yet have ink usage calculator in their software. Another one is end users does not have precise scale. 0.01g least 0.1g.
If any one interest in share reports.
1. Ink usage.
2. Speed. Less ink down side effect and more.
3. Quality output.
4. Delay time.
Etc. will be nice.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.
 

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There is an ink usage calculator in Garment Creator. You can also compare the GC / RIP / and printer ink usage by printing out a job log sheet directly from the printer to see how much it used per channel of ink.
Humm, it wasn't there when I played with it last time.
Most RIP:put Data in ink price. It will show up exact to the pennies. Really accurate on each job. Does it same? I will re-look today. Did not go to work for long. Do you own F2000?
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Marc, Like your style always and dig it.
Cheers! Beers are on me always.
As to ink cost, that is a slippery slope. You are trusting the RIP authors to be both accurate and HONEST in ink use. My motto is trust but verify by actually weighing carts or bags after a dozen+ shirts of the same design. That is the only way to be sure. I wouldn't trust the RIPs, to much of an interest in the outcome. I am not implying that any of the RIP manufacturers are dishonest, but stuff happens.
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This question may have been answered already, but I couldn't find it after searching. If I have 5 Epson printers, do I need 5 computers?

Say, I had a large job, and I wanted to print the same design on 5 different printers, can I do that from one computer?

Would it be possible to use one computer for 5 printers and open up a different instance of the RIP to print a different design on a different printer?
 

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This question may have been answered already, but I couldn't find it after searching. If I have 5 Epson printers, do I need 5 computers?

Say, I had a large job, and I wanted to print the same design on 5 different printers, can I do that from one computer?

Would it be possible to use one computer for 5 printers and open up a different instance of the RIP to print a different design on a different printer?
Hello Nick,

Garment Creator should be able to run 5 different printer (in theory) as it communicates with the F2000 via a control panel printer and you would have to have 5 of these in control panel.
The problem is that you can only run one instance of GC at a time and it tied up while printing so you could only driver one printer at a time.

A work around would be to print to file on a USB stick and then print from the USB stick (there is a USB port on the printer for this).

Our RIP (Digital Factory) is queue based so you can setup different queues for different printers so you don't need multiple instances, but the standard version will only driver one printer at a time (it wont start printing to a 2nd printer until its finished on the first) this is deliberate as we charge more for products that driver concurrent printers.
But again you can print to file and use a USB stick.

I don't know about NeoRIP if it allows multiple printer support or not.

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-David
 

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This question may have been answered already, but I couldn't find it after searching. If I have 5 Epson printers, do I need 5 computers?

Say, I had a large job, and I wanted to print the same design on 5 different printers, can I do that from one computer?

Would it be possible to use one computer for 5 printers and open up a different instance of the RIP to print a different design on a different printer?
if u can afford buying 5 epson F2000...

why it is so hard to buy 5 x $500 laptop.....
 

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It probably isn't the money and more logistics, the computers all take up more space, plus you then have 5 screens to operate rather than one.

We have quite a few companies we work with that do large scale fulfilment from T-shirts to iPhone covers and they all drive multiple printers from a single machine as its more efficient.

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-David
 

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Thanks to the contributors of this thread. I enjoy seeing results and observing the findings concerning the subject.

As a 'screen printer' researching DTG RIP software, with the view of entering DTG textile decorating, this thread is quite informative.

Quality, given my circumstance, is paramount. To begin my DTG journey I don't want to be coughing up half-assed reproductions of my customer's artwork. They need to be wowed as always.

After reading this thread up-to-now, IMO, the variables between after market RIP software, and what you get as part of ones copious amount of spending $$$ on a printer, seem to be similar when tweaking any artwork for textile reproduction.

Ease v results. Given the difficulties surrounding textile reproduction, there's no 'easy street' is there?
 

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It probably isn't the money and more logistics, the computers all take up more space, plus you then have 5 screens to operate rather than one.

We have quite a few companies we work with that do large scale fulfilment from T-shirts to iPhone covers and they all drive multiple printers from a single machine as its more efficient.

Best regards

-David
That's the idea. We have all of the computers in every department linked to our network. I'm looking for a way to insert a new department into the current system.

-Nick
 

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The company that should really go into this is EFI. On our digital printing presses we print a certain paper do the ES-1000 densitometer scan and save the profile easy.
Common sense would say you could print a calibration patch on a color and fabric.

Just a thought.
 

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Profiling T-shirts, especially black and color shirts is nothing like profiling white media and / or other textiles and requires certain tricks.

White T-shirts in particular have a very small color gamut which is challenging as the normal rendering intents developed for ICC process are not really suitable for such large compression.

We offer as an option all the profiling features, but it really isn't as straight forward and anything EFI have now would need lots of development for DTG, its a specialist market to do properly.

We know as we also support large format printers, sublimation, desktop, UV and a whole range of other devices and nothing comes close to being as difficult to profile as T-shirts.

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-David
 
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