anything is possible..you will need larger screens, larger squeeges, larger pallets, a large format printer that can print larger films and i almost forgot a larger exposure unit.
Near All-over print on a standard press?
Hey, everyone. I've never done any all-over prints, and I don't even have a ton of experience on my new press (hopkins 6/4).
Just wondering: is it possibe to do all-over or NEAR all-over prints with a standard press such as the one I have?
OH! also, what do people use to print films for these things??
Thanks for any info!
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Just wondering: is it possibe to do all-over or NEAR all-over prints with a standard press such as the one I have?
OH! also, what do people use to print films for these things??
Thanks for any info!
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Would it just be easier to do it on a flat table instead of a press.
You can accomplish a lot with some basic out of the box thinking. My guess is that you are using 20 x 24 standard manual frames.
A lot of the "all-over" look is really about climbing the shoulders or printing out over the sleeve seam. Consider this, print two designs on film, one a mirror of the other that will look good moving from the chest up the shoulder. Lay them out in your screen but use the screen 24" wide instead of tall. You can print each of the designs on 11 x 17 film or vellum. Line them up on the sideways screen, tape and burn. You now have a design that simulates the all over and it was done on a manual frame. You will not be able to do more than a couple colors because the sideways frames will hit together when clamped into the press.
You may want to use one screen in landscape to go up on the shoulders and then maybe use a screen in normal portrait to fill in a design in the body.
The only special requirement now is a platen to print on. You can purchase one from your press manufacturer or if the brackets on your current pallets are removable, you can make your own and simply swap the bracket.
Don't be limited published specs on equipment, we all spec our machines based on conventional printing so as not to create confusion. There are many other possibilities if you let your creativity take over.
A lot of the "all-over" look is really about climbing the shoulders or printing out over the sleeve seam. Consider this, print two designs on film, one a mirror of the other that will look good moving from the chest up the shoulder. Lay them out in your screen but use the screen 24" wide instead of tall. You can print each of the designs on 11 x 17 film or vellum. Line them up on the sideways screen, tape and burn. You now have a design that simulates the all over and it was done on a manual frame. You will not be able to do more than a couple colors because the sideways frames will hit together when clamped into the press.
You may want to use one screen in landscape to go up on the shoulders and then maybe use a screen in normal portrait to fill in a design in the body.
The only special requirement now is a platen to print on. You can purchase one from your press manufacturer or if the brackets on your current pallets are removable, you can make your own and simply swap the bracket.
Don't be limited published specs on equipment, we all spec our machines based on conventional printing so as not to create confusion. There are many other possibilities if you let your creativity take over.
probly...but you still need the larger everything else...
Just a table, screen printing clamps, and a larger screen would do the trick right. Only could do 1 color though.
Depending on the design there is a you tube video that shows you how to do it on a normal set up.
Depending on the design there is a you tube video that shows you how to do it on a normal set up.
Thanks for all the responses, everyone! Very helpfull ideas!
tdunham - would a screen in landscape orientation be able to print up high enough on the shirt, or is that where a different sized platen come in?
Orso- What are printing clamps? Will standard clamps from a hardware store work?
tdunham - would a screen in landscape orientation be able to print up high enough on the shirt, or is that where a different sized platen come in?
Orso- What are printing clamps? Will standard clamps from a hardware store work?
That's going to depend on the adjustments available on your press. If you can move your platens in on the print arm, then you might have enough room, otherwise you will need to make corrections in the platen you create.Thanks for all the responses, everyone! Very helpfull ideas!
tdunham - would a screen in landscape orientation be able to print up high enough on the shirt, or is that where a different sized platen come in?
This is the hinge clamps I am referring to Speedball Deluxe Hinge Clamps - BLICK art materialsOrso- What are printing clamps? Will standard clamps from a hardware store work?
I've got a Hopkins 8/4 win press and it's great!
Yes, there are all kinds of ways around issues. Like using multiple screens to create an all over print...silkscreeningsupplies.com has over-sized platens for your Hopkins press too.
Experiment...think outside the box!
Yes, there are all kinds of ways around issues. Like using multiple screens to create an all over print...silkscreeningsupplies.com has over-sized platens for your Hopkins press too.
Experiment...think outside the box!
Ok, this is clearly going to take some thought on my part, but what's the general consensus?
Is a press like this one preferable? All Over Oversized Screen Printing Press w/ Side Clamps
or would the hinge system mentioned above work just as well? Speedball Deluxe Hinge Clamps - BLICK art materials
or, could I get the same effect just doing it in 2 standard sized screens? Would I just situate one screen as far left in the head as I could, and the other as far right?
Thanks for any help in my pondering!
Is a press like this one preferable? All Over Oversized Screen Printing Press w/ Side Clamps
or would the hinge system mentioned above work just as well? Speedball Deluxe Hinge Clamps - BLICK art materials
or, could I get the same effect just doing it in 2 standard sized screens? Would I just situate one screen as far left in the head as I could, and the other as far right?
Thanks for any help in my pondering!
oh- also, with those hinges, do they just get screwed into a table or sheet of wood and that's that? Would I need to build off contact into the table/mounting area?
Nope just screw then into the table. What I like to do on the screen side next to your gut is tape 2 pennies under the screen it just helps with keeping it off contact on both sides.
If you are looking at this type of printing there is a company in Atlanta, Georgia that can build you ANY crazy pallet idea you can think of ... Action Engineering ask for Erik -or- Lenny ... hope this helps
How do you keep the shirt from lifting from the pallet after you print?
Almost all A="all-over" printing is limited to one color. The reason is that the shirt is just laid on the pallet instead of over it. Some companies make shirt pallets that go into the sleeves and spring out but there is more time involved and cost.
You use a huge screen, come down right on top of the shirt, and run a 1 color. Jumbo printer 25 x 36 is done multi colored. I am currently running a 10 color simulated process jumbo print, its a beast. Also, a lot of companies like ed hardy run a 1 color all over print in a tone that is very similar to the shirt as to not make the areas are the seams show the mess up in the print then do a jumbo print on top of it.
You use a huge screen, come down right on top of the shirt, and run a 1 color. Jumbo printer 25 x 36 is done multi colored. I am currently running a 10 color simulated process jumbo print, its a beast. Also, a lot of companies like ed hardy run a 1 color all over print in a tone that is very similar to the shirt as to not make the areas are the seams show the mess up in the print then do a jumbo print on top of it.
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