MultiRIP GP cmyk problem

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Tib

Discussion Starter · Jul 26, 2010

Hello guys!
After more of an half year, now i finished my diy project completly. Now i started to printing shirts, and also i test the colors on plain papers, too.
Now, i trying the multririp gp, and i had an small problem. If i print an photo, then the colors are completly different.

The printed one on the 3rd image. The first one the original. As you can see, I printed an CMYK test, so it show, that the head are not clogged. I tried to print RGB image, CMYK image, the result are still the same. I use default settings on the RGB input, CMYK input, and output profiles.

Yes, and the CMYK test was also an jpg, and of course i also test each color sperate too. I printed an non photo image with almost good results, so i don't know what is the problem.

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DAGuide

· #2 · Jul 26, 2010

Need to know the following answers:

1. What graphic software program are you running?

2. What is your color management setup as?

3. Are you printing directly from the graphic software program or from the Print From application?

4. Do you see any error messages in the Status Message screen? (Usually will say "Can't Find" or Error")

Let us know so we can help you out.

Mark

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Tib

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 26, 2010

Thank's for quick reply!

1. I use photoshop, but i print with the Print From Application (usually i drag the pic, and pull to the editor).

2. What is my color managment setup in PS, or in my printer?

4. I'll check the status messages, because i didn't do that yet. This program was totally new for me, I had small experience with it, when i use sublimation ink for testing, but I didn't use an lot's of images.

Thank's for your help again.

DAGuide said:
Need to know the following answers:

1. What graphic software program are you running?

2. What is your color management setup as?

3. Are you printing directly from the graphic software program or from the Print From application?

4. Do you see any error messages in the Status Message screen? (Usually will say "Can't Find" or Error")

Let us know so we can help you out.

Mark

Tib

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 26, 2010

Oh, and i didn't say, that I'm using on Vista.

DAGuide

· #5 · Jul 26, 2010

Sorry, just looked at your color chart. From what I can see, there is no cyan being printed. Run a nozzle check and verify this.

By the way, you probably need to either make your printer more secured to the base or the platen needs to ride smoother on the base. The letters / numbers on the color chart are not visible. Something needs to be tighten up.

But it seems like you got a good start to things.

Mark

Tib

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jul 26, 2010

I printed cyan a few times with no problem, so i think must be the CMYK profile line somewhere. I printed a CMYK test jpg on yesterday with no problem, after that, I printed an photo, with the same results as i posted.

The letters are not visible, because I not print the chart in it full size. I filled the cartridges with DTG ink, and if not must, I not print it with charts. It's an very small picture, and of course the scan also not very good.

DAGuide said:
Sorry, just looked at your color chart. From what I can see, there is no cyan being printed. Run a nozzle check and verify this.

By the way, you probably need to either make your printer more secured to the base or the platen needs to ride smoother on the base. The letters / numbers on the color chart are not visible. Something needs to be tighten up.

But it seems like you got a good start to things.

Mark

Tib

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jul 26, 2010

First I think too, that something with the cyan, but no.

DAGuide

· #8 · Jul 26, 2010

Running in Vista should not be the issue.

First, print a nozzle check and verify that the first four boxes are your color inks. The next four boxes will be your white ink. Verify that you see all the lines in nozzle check.

Then, take the TIF version of the color chart (not altered by your graphic software program) and open it up in the Print From application. Follow these instructions - [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8xTy9xMo50[/media].

I have been working with DTG printers for over 3 years. I have never seen an entire color chart absent an ink channel because of the wrong color management or wrong profile. It either has to be an ink delivery issue or something is wrong with the install.

Post a picture of the nozzle and let me know how running the color chart without doing the drag-and-drop method.

Mark

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Tib

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jul 27, 2010

I've got news. So, the first image was printed after the nozzle check. You'll see, that the cyan, and every other nozzle good.The white channels, too, but of course i printed this test on white paper. Every test was done on plain paper. The third print was made by the original software. Please, don't watch the black lines, i forgot to change the resolution to 720, because my printer wasn't work properly on 360. But I think, the colors good. And of course, from the light cyan, lm, lb, came white. On the 4th there are an CMYK test done by multirip.

My dtg was built on an R2100, so it only had 3 white channel.
I downloaded EKPrint Studio, to give it a try, but it's stuck on load the paper. I think it's driver not made for R2100.
I hope, you could say something good. If not, I will try on an XP. Vista was the worst operating system after Millenium Edition.

Thank's for your help!

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102557

· #10 · Jul 28, 2010

Regarding the ek rip! are you running in roll mode? if so just request the update for the 2100-2200 to do nozzle checks in roll mode they can do this easily for you if its the case.. you mention that it is stuck on load paper do you have the settings in the rip set to roll mode? you will at least be able to print a graphic this way, check your printer setup utilities on the ek to make sure you have it on roll mode

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Tib

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jul 29, 2010

I reinstalled the system, and the problem are still the same.

My installation steps:
Install Microsoft Visual C++ 2008
Install MultiRIP
Install original driver

I also tried wit EK RIP, I attached the picture. Far better the print, and the color, but still matte. Just look at the black, in multi rip the black was good.

I give a try with an windows XP.

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essen48183

· #12 · Jul 31, 2010

I had the exact same problem. I have the same printer. What it turned out to be was a bug in the multiriptrial I downloaded to try on the 2200 before I even got a 2200 and cut it apart. (It was maybe 3 months old) that was fixed with a later release. Try downloading the latest version. unintstalling multirip and installing the newer one.

To confirm that we had the same problem before going through that: colors would be OK in multirip and from photoshop they'd be all weird.

I must've used $200 in ink changing settings, until I finally got this solved. from photoshop what works for me is setting color management to none, and choosing colormatchrgb in the dialog where you choose the rip settings... and bam! perfect prints.

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Tib

Discussion Starter · #13 · Aug 2, 2010

I downloaded the new version, but you'll see in the picture, the problem is still the same. The printer print all colors, but I relaized, that it print too many black. I tested it with change the print setting to Vivid, ant the other photo was very colorful, but also too many black on it. And this attached picture also printed with vivid setting, but nothing changed.

And tested with Windows 7.

Strange.

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essen48183

· #14 · Aug 2, 2010

You are going to have a hard time helping yourself and getting help with images like that. It is like an inch across and doesn't use all the colors. Use this one. People will be able to see this original and you can post what this looks like printed. print on a white tshirt at a decent size (like 8" wide). Don't use vivid for photos. I think it is for spot color type work. It increases the amount of all the colors without worry as much about the end result looking like the original.

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Tib

Discussion Starter · #15 · Aug 3, 2010

It uses all of the colors, because I printed several cmyk test, and the result was ok. The problem will occur when I print photos, or graphics, that I posted.
I tested with the original epson driver too, and the result was almost good. Colors are ok, expect the channels, that filled with white (of course).

I printed nozzle checks too, and I printed colored rectangles with Multi RIP, to test the colors. Everything was OK. No nozzles blocked.

essen48183

· #16 · Aug 3, 2010

If all your colors are printing correctly and you think the black is outputting too much, just move the K channel slider down some. (in the printer setup menu, I think) I have my K at 85%, and my CMY at 90%, and my W's at 100%

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DAGuide

· #17 · Aug 3, 2010

Tib,

I have offered twice via PMs to do a remote access to look directly at your computer to try and assistance you. We know very little about your graphics other than what you have posted. You have also not stated what the color management settings are in your graphic software program. These are key variables to how the color information is process.

The final thing that I just noticed from one of your other posts is that you are not using Dupont ink. MRGP comes profiled for the Dupont dtg inks. I have never used the inks you are using and they have not been profiled. So I have no clue how the color is going to come out as they could be completely different pigments.

So if you would like to do a remote access session, send me an email as to what day / time works for you. I am on EST (i.e. east coast of the U.S.). At this point, that is the best that I can offer.

Mark

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Tib

Discussion Starter · #18 · Aug 3, 2010

Yes, I think this is the solution, that I don't figured out yet.

Tib

Discussion Starter · #19 · Aug 3, 2010

I accepted the offer. I like this sotware, because it's handle everything professional. In Hungary, I don't think somebody uses it, because of the number of DTG machines.

I also made tests with EK print, and I could set up it, to provide very cool colors. The only problem is, that is kills my paper sensor, because when it's pull back at "paper" load, the it pulls back aggressively.

DAGuide said:
Tib,

I have offered twice via PMs to do a remote access to look directly at your computer to try and assistance you. We know very little about your graphics other than what you have posted. You have also not stated what the color management settings are in your graphic software program. These are key variables to how the color information is process.

The final thing that I just noticed from one of your other posts is that you are not using Dupont ink. MRGP comes profiled for the Dupont dtg inks. I have never used the inks you are using and they have not been profiled. So I have no clue how the color is going to come out as they could be completely different pigments.

So if you would like to do a remote access session, send me an email as to what day / time works for you. I am on EST (i.e. east coast of the U.S.). At this point, that is the best that I can offer.

Mark

DAGuide

· #20 · Aug 3, 2010

Tibor,

The email for the remote session was sent 15 minutes ago. I think the sessions have a time-out feature at either 30 minutes or one hour. The instructions on how to long in are in the email. It is a pretty easy process. Post a message in the chat box under the Netviewer panel that will show up on the right side of your screen.

Other than that, I am just waiting for you to login in so we can get started.

Mark

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