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Epson based DIY builders/small printer manufacturers, diy wannabe manufacturers :). In my final contribution to this TSF thread, and in an effort to make it the highest viewed, i will be adding some additional resources here in addition to some of the Facebook groups!

If you have any interest in a truly open source motion control platform- a high quality motion control system at ultra low cost this is for you! :***disclaimer***(I do not profit from this in any fashion) This is a major manufacturer module resource sold thru their suppliers....)

This powerful system (control board module) comes preloaded with its own IDE/simple motion control language, has manufacturer tutorials and support . It is produced by a major manufacturer (no need to be an experienced programmer) It includes a ton of control parameters built in- to run stepper motor control system that follow encoders, lots of features and functions at your finger tips, including additional axis control!! This is a high quality system! The best part its under $100 dollars U.S.. Im hoping this will help a lot of the DIY guys on a small budget with a high quality system/ even the small dtg manufacturers can benefit from the quality and cost savings! Please share and pass it along once the resources are posted , hoping everyone and their brother uses it! :)

In the meantime ----If your a diy guy just starting out- download all the "printer conversion resources you can" ie videos/etc. this is the how to on converting the printer itself. There are currently numerous outlets for "printer conversion" usually produced by the diydtg electronic producers sellers/resellers, these will start to disappear without generating profits from electronic sales get access while you can.


I truly believe this will be an awesome "real" open source diy platform with a low cost module- to build on with tremendous growth possibilities into the future! Having no proprietary board design platforms with full component description and tutorials. high quality low cost, that no one can beat! This should open the door for other manufacturers and diy builders alike, effectively benefiting dtg as a whole! Hope to see a tremendous amount of sharing and open source going on! best wishes!! here's the link scroll down for all the manuals etc! have fun! :)

https://www.trinamic.com/products/modules/details/tmcm-1110/
 

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Certainly an option along with many other hobby controllers like ufo printer.... The best plug and play that is above the hobby level is the DTG PRINTER | GB DTG TSHIRT PRINTER DIRECT TO GARMENT PRINTER UK although more expensive by about 100 its a complete unit that works well! fyi for those looking for that type! If your a hobbyist programmer different story! but i would reccomend a pic chip (microchip) with no heavy overhead on the chip and one thats fast and doesnt miss encoder counts :) p.s thats what gb dtg printer uses a qaulity pic chip application!

So yes! i agree there are many options and they all come with different levels of quality/support when you truly understand what your looking at from a developer aspect! (key word quality) It is very difficult to make a high quality product professionally engineered on the cheap and provide 24 hour service- that will never exist with cheap quality ardunio style competition! plain and simple! but it comes down to what you want if you start looking into resources including the vids i listed here you will start to get a feel of different qaulity levels and sound noise resonance etc. etc. will be a good first indicator of what you are getting :)

This is why im listing the Trinamic products here its a major manufacturer, is a professional engineered product/s, has all the documentation/help with a simple command language on and on! and wait a live support option also! So it truly is the best ":true open source control module to build on" with a low cost under $100 u.s! that is something a dtgdiy community can get behind and build on into the future with ease and economy! we can leave it at that for starters :) if 3rd party hobby control module was under 100 and the code is free like trinamic that's a true open source, otherwise its just another for profit selling---- hobby boards/parts and memberships (not open source in a nut shell) Trinamic builds would be open source and cheap and most important high quality application! but to each there own on what they want! but again why i posted trinamic in the diy section is because it truly is that!!!!
 

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As for making a high-quality product professional engineered DTG product OpenDTG has done that using the Arduino which has been used by millions of DIYers for a wide range of products.

If you talking about T-Dozer then I fully agree.
As long as you are happy thats all that matters right!!! :) you should be all set then... let the true open source options be known and the people free to chose, again this is the diy section! There is a ton of free video education available that's non bias on quality let the public decide for themselves whats what.. Trinamic is a true open source plain and simple! when i became aware of options like trinamic and others with the qaulity level and the scale of which a major manufacturer produces, i knew the 3rd party controls had a limited life span... It is controllers like trinamic and other similar options that will be the predominate force in the diy application.. the limited profit options are making the complete machine for resale.. that is limited aswell with epson frequent firmware changes (like the infamous 0x73 in the middle of printer production, along with country specific firmware changes! ) and ink check changes coming in the future (why i moved on) :)
 

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I bought a T-Dozer kit, Jeff . . . And I and a number of others who I've traded emails with are not exactly happy with the way you and Tyler conducted yourselves with regards to T-Dozer's "Business Plan."

I find it completely disingenuous that you failed to include OpenDTG in your links. It is by far the best site on the web for those looking to go the DIY DTG route.

As far as "As long as your happy", I'm happy that T-Dozer isn't screwing any more people . . . that's what make me happy!!!!

There are thousands of happy customers, you are one the rare few i guess.. furthermore there are thousands of happy commercial users of the same control system across a couple different brands. im sorry if you feel wronged for it closing.. For the record i moved on over a year ago... whats going on with that control system now, i have no idea!! :)

Trinamic!! diyers that's were its at!!!! along with other similar applications! The 3rd party resellers don't want you to know these options!! but they exist, go get em! :) build on a truly open source! i would love to see this grow into something hugh as it should!!
 

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There are thousands of happy customers, you are the rare few i guess.

I think you guess wrong, although I agree with you that "you have no idea."
I know for fact what the developer sold to commercial 3rd parties and the diy crowd, (when i was there) ! the commercial was 100 fold compared to the diy! but like i said i left over a year ago! so i have no idea who this is being sold to commercially these days! :) you are starting to sound bias ....to certain places, i have posted many options no bias here... :) Im trying very hard to be positive and i don't want to say anything negative about anyone ...maybe your not aware of the past histories of those who used to manufacturer printers turned diy electronic manufacturer! lets leave it at that and move along! :)

TRINAMIC:)
 

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If you're not bias then why didn't you mention OpenDTG?

If you haven't heard of OpenDTG then your truly out of the loop.

FYI, looks like Spectra DTG is also out of business.
Read my above reply about turning this into a negative thread! do yourself a favor as a fanboy and go ask the manufacturer there history and what printer they once sold/manufacturered... lets move along! If you are a moral soul you might change your opinions! :)

TRINAMIC:)
 

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Answer the question: Are you bias against OpenDTG?

OpenDTG.com ;)
I did several times! If you dont know the history, you sir are out of the loop! i simply have my preferences as do you! difference is i listed several, know the history, and im not biased! go find out the history please! :) Sounds like someones upset very good inexpensive options are being posted,hmmm .. starting to wonder the affiliation with all this resistance of multiple options! :)

TRINAMIC! :)
 

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I know the history all too well.

I'm not biased against any DIY DTG solutions. TRINAMIC, OpenDTG, Arduino, and other DIY DTG solutions

So answer the question: Are you bias against OpenDTG.com?
Again.. i did! i listed my preferences! :) If you know the history what printer did they manufacturer? Say it! Say it out loud? your a moral guy it looks like from the beginning of the conversation, but its taking a turn:) say it! :)
 

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Jeff,

Your posts are clearly biased and your goal is obvious.

I've made no efforts to conceal my past. I post under the same username here and use my name all over OpenDTG.

Yes I was a reseller of a DTG printer manufactured by someone else and my company went bankrupt along with myself and that hurt customers. I spent the last 3 years evaluating what went wrong with the product, what went wrong that I did managing the company and how I can do better in the future. Along with that I've spent thousands of hours developing my own stuff so I'm not beholden to anyone else.

I think my conduct with OpenDTG speaks for itself. Everyone gets what they ordered, if they have product issues I've replaced the item and I'm very on top of giving support to not just my customers but also peoples customers.

I'm humble enough to admit where I went wrong and work diligently to make a better future.

If you truly left DTG then quit with this petty stuff that You, Jay, Tyler and Romeo are known for throughout the industry.
I have no issue with anyone! If you recall, i even told you this on the phone!! ? what gives! i have not once mentioned you at all! even after being badgerered and prodded here! I simply listed options in my long tenured diy thread of options! Goals? only to offer open source solutions to the diy community, you are all about this right? not comprehending this convo very well, i guess!

Its clear to me now, you or certain people dont like this for some reason? I have zero interest in what anyone else is doing, i worry about myself! please guys dont worry about the options here, move along and do your thing!!! your making something out of something that never was... these are simply my preferences.. that simple :)
 

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Jeff,

Your posts are clearly biased and your goal is obvious.

I've made no efforts to conceal my past. I post under the same username here and use my name all over OpenDTG.

Yes I was a reseller of a DTG printer manufactured by someone else and my company went bankrupt along with myself and that hurt customers. I spent the last 3 years evaluating what went wrong with the product, what went wrong that I did managing the company and how I can do better in the future. Along with that I've spent thousands of hours developing my own stuff so I'm not beholden to anyone else.

I think my conduct with OpenDTG speaks for itself. Everyone gets what they ordered, if they have product issues I've replaced the item and I'm very on top of giving support to not just my customers but also peoples customers.

I'm humble enough to admit where I went wrong and work diligently to make a better future.

If you truly left DTG then quit with this petty stuff that You, Jay, Tyler and Romeo are known for throughout the industry.

Andy,
I'm truly surprised at your reaction here as im thinking this thru, it comes out of left field!

Im guessing you think this will affect sales for you or im trying to affect your sales! which is ludicris!

Think about that for one second, if that was my intention i would simply make public designs for the ardunio shield, remember we did this first with the avenger shield? profits on that would be done overnight and that would be easy!

So obviously you are misinterpreting my post! Im truly making public a great open source high qaulity platform with simple commands to build on with the Trinamic and similar type solutions! so please reevaluate and think out your reactions before responding! this is silly :)
 

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Then there is no issue.

But I will clarify and correct you, there is a true Open source available. OpenDTG posts 100% open source code for both our controllers and code compatible with a stock Arduino Uno.

We also welcome talk and discussion of other controllers like UFO and T-dozer. I will even order one of those controllers from Digikey to evaluate.

To say Arduino isn't suited for DIY DTG controllers also contradicts yourself years ago when under the Spectra DIY you said you sold thousands of DIY controllers and those were all Arduino based shields. Or did you recall and refund those since you think Atmel / Arduino isn't good enough?

You might also want to check with GB DTG to make sure that controller you recommend is a Microchip, for a while that same controller had the Atmel chip for Arduino code.
Look at my above post! i said we made the arduino based avenger shield first! please read! Further more we made it a direct plug in too the arduino board (shield) this in all honesty fits the "open source realm" much better than separate proprietary built platform style boards! I hope you and others will go look at the videos of the arduino shield in action and listen to its operation==smooth as glass, which proves there is way more that goes into these dtg controllers than one suspects (even for the basic operation) ... that said its easier to get this smooth finesse low noise/resonance operation using other chip/platform applications for dtg, especially for advanced control reading incoming logic, making math corrections for a perfect encoder match with no missed counts.. not an adjust the number programming style:)

without going into specific detail why i don't like atmel/arduino for dtg there are reasons,many! but that's my preference/experience as i said! additionally, these same reasons why most use other platforms other than arduino well known for learning micro controllers on a hobby level. ! the Trinamic offers all of that one needs in a high quality system at 32 bits and cheaply, built by a major manufacturer! that's all! :) again please read that above post! below is the shield in case you forgot:) .. i hope this thread can get back on topic and away from proprietary built boards that are profit based/built controllers!
 

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