I love Matsui ink, but frankly they've dropped the ball on this. That's why I switched over to Permaset. They have a firstdown white that works really well with the standard colors.
Hi Phillip, seems we've taken this chat from phone to email to forum lolI love Matsui ink, but frankly they've dropped the ball on this. That's why I switched over to Permaset. They have a firstdown white that works really well with the standard colors.
I believe the 'Bright Cotton White' you are referring to is a plastisol ink made by Triangle and couldn't be used for underbasing a water based ink.Hi Phillip, seems we've taken this chat from phone to email to forum lol
Referring to your suggestion, I downloaded the pricing pdf from www.armadilloart.com , however the pricing seems as high as other sites. For instance,
AQUA SUPERCOVER FIRST DOWN WHITE 1LT --- $45.95
Approximately 4 liters = 1 gallon.
That makes it --- $183.80 !!!
Compared to a gallon of 'Brite Cotton White' at www.screenprintingsupplies.com for $48.
Sizable difference.
How does one obtain a more reasonable price, (if there is one)?
Yeah, I was comparing the cost of Permaset to the cost of Plastisols. Permaset is GREAT because you don't have to discharge. You can use their 'first down white', flash, then lay down your wet on wets, for light inks on dark shirts. But their price is ASTRONOMICAL.I believe the 'Bright Cotton White' you are referring to is a plastisol ink made by Triangle and couldn't be used for underbasing a water based ink.
Matsui has released the newest version of their Pantone matching software which can be downloaded from here...Westix Online - Matsui Color Matching Software. Simply log into our website and the download is free.
This new version of the software includes formulas for their OW series and printing on a white underbase. We haven't yet tested the formulations...some colors might need some tweaking. This might be the most eco friendly solution for textile screen printing on darks to date.
Yeah, I was comparing the cost of Permaset to the cost of Plastisols. Permaset is GREAT because you don't have to discharge. You can use their 'first down white', flash, then lay down your wet on wets, for light inks on dark shirts. But their price is ASTRONOMICAL.
I can field that question. Permaset Aqua only has one distributer in the US. They are ArmadilloArt:Hey Phillip, where do you get your permaset from? Is it a US distributor?
Nope. You're comparing apples to oranges. Armadillo doesn't publish their trade pricing on their website. You have to call.Thanks for the tip, Mark.
I did a little price comparison shopping:
rexart.com --- 4 Liters - Black - OASP004303 $105.16
armadilloart.com --- AQUA JET BLACK 1LT (x4) - 9326602016395 $103.80
rexart.com --- 4 Liters - First Down White - OASP004303 $97.79
armadilloart.com --- AQUA SUPERCOVER FIRST DOWN WHITE 1LT (x4) - 9326602018054 - $183.80
rexart.com --- 4 Liters - Glow Blue - OASP029103 $167.47
armadilloart.com --- AQUA SUPERCOVER GLOW BLUE 1LT (x4) - 9326602018375 $295.80
When it comes to the specialty inks, glows/opaques/first-down, rexart.com is hands down the winner.
Actually, Armadillos trade price on 4 liters of SC Black is $94.17. You quoted the 1 liter price times 4. Smaller quantities always cost more.Actually, it's worse than that. I misquoted the supercover black.
Rexart.com --- Permaset Aqua Supercover Opaque Ink - Rex Art Supplies
see: 4 Liters - Black OASP004303 $105.16
Armadilloart.com --- trade pricing only available if you ask for it.
AQUA SUPERCOVER BLACK 1LT $49.95. Now multiply that by 4 to get 4 liters: $199.80 (!)
Check my figures, Phillip.
I don't see ArmadilloArt offer 4 liters anywhere on the trade pricing list they sent me...Actually, Armadillos trade price on 4 liters of SC Black is $94.17. You quoted the 1 liter price times 4. Smaller quantities always cost more.![]()
Excellent info. Thanks again.Cool. Glad we got that figured out.
Also, the regular colors are much less expensive and would be used for 90% of your work. I use them with an underbase on dark colors too.I'm not even sure what the point of supercover black would be.
Ok Good to know I will have to call for the dealer pricing.Phillip, you're absolutely correct. I still had the "public" price list. (!)
Thank you so much for pointing that out.
Going back to my first price comparisons:
Rexart.com --- 4 Liters - Black supercover $105.16
ArmadilloArt.com --- 4 Liters - Black supercover $94.17
Rexart.com --- 4 Liters - First Down White $97.79
ArmadilloArt.com --- 4 Liters - First Down White $87.57
Rexart.com --- 4 Liters - Glow Blue $167.47
ArmadilloArt.com --- 4 Liters - Glow Blue $149.97
www.ArmadilloArt.com wins this price contest.