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Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

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I can't seem to find much information about the cut and sew process of T shirts anywhere on this forum. Can someone direct me to it if there is one? Specifically I have a question regarding sewing patterns for T shirts. Since most neck and armhole banding seems to be cut by the roll is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the banding? I have pattern experience but not with T shirt manufacturing.
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re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

this has been asked before but as you'll find the info is limited. first you might want to check out the other sections of the forum including the embroidery/sewing section. those people there deal with this kind of stuff all the time. here is a link to a thread that was posted sometime in the past asking basically the same question. there were a couple of people that answered that seemed very knowledgable and if anything you could probably click on their personal info to send them a message. here you go:

http://www.t-shirtforums.com/graphics-design-help/t55333.html
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re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

Thanks miktoxic, I had seen this post but it doesn't really address the fine tuning of patterns for the T shirt manufacturing process. I've tried all kinds of searches but little if any seems to be said regarding the technical construction side of T shirts. Mostly about printing, design layout and transfer and blank makers. Do any of the blank manufacturer's pattern makers read this? They know the answer.
re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

yeah i knew the info was thin, at least here. you really should try that other section of the forum though, they might be able to at least point you in the right direction. other than that have you tried looking for patterns for ts?
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re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

Thanks again miktoxic but there seems nothing there. I am a pattern maker already so I don't really need a pattern, just the tip on whether notches are needed on the neck band. Any sewers out there? Not sewers, SEWERS!
re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

i know this isn't exactly what you want but it might explain the basics to you. you'd only have to change the measurement of the waist to equal the shoulder.
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re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

I don't understand. Was there supposed to be a link or something?
re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

oops:

web.archive.org/web/20071203141117/http://www.geocities.com/hansensmtn/toby/basic_tunic.htm
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re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

Hi David

Hopefully I can give you a few answers. Quick answer is no notches are not usually used on knitwear patterns. Because SA is smaller and fabric prone to unravellng (I think that is the term, sorry brain has gone blank at the moment) notches really are only used where amounts differ from industry standards.

No, banding is not notched, it is applied direct from the roll and not cut into individual pieces. The shirt is partially sewn and then the bands are applied while the garment is still on the flat and then the final seams sewn and the seam allowance then secured.

I am not sure what else you want to know, David and I don't want to teach my granny to suck eggs (so to speak). I hope this clears up the basic questions.

Let me know if there is anything else you want to know.

Kim
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re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

what you need is a tech pack to create your garment. there aren't many around, so searching will take some time. PM, I may have someone you can contact.
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re: Manufacturing and sewing production information needed - is notching for center front, center back and shoulder seams necessary on the neck banding?

Thanks Kim,
Pretty much what I figured (my granny knew too), but not having made the standard T shirt (due to rarified air of specialty markets) I was just a little unsure on that point. I couldn't see manufacturing slowing to piece cut and sew a 5/8" finished neck banding. I am told that some neck bands that are two ply or applied with a 4 thread overlock can require cut pieces but this is not my situation. Much appreciated.
David
Dear Alex,
No problem on the tech pack, that's what I do, technical design. I just lack direct T shirt manufacturing experience, although I'm getting it now. If you should need a tech pack write me, mine are very detailed and accurate.
David
Thanks Kim,
I am told that some neck bands that are two ply or applied with a 4 thread overlock can require cut pieces but this is not my situation. Much appreciated.
David
Hi again David

Glad I could help. It occurred to me later that maybe I should have explained a bit more but my brain was in receivership at the time. When the bands are applied they are done so on a coverstitch machine. "So what?" you say, well, coverstitch machines, unlike an overlocker or sewing machines, don't allow for chaining on as the threads break if there is no fabric to sew through (and are they a pain to re-thread - don't ask me how I know this!). To overcome this the ribbing is simply applied in one long strip with the tshirts sort of hanging off it and then it is cut apart. The jig that folds the binding and feeds it into the coverstitch machine sits at a 90 degree angle to the pressure foot/needles so it is the folding and turning of the ribbing prior to being sewn that actually tensions the ribbing giving that it has that nice smooth look.:)

Hope that wasn't too much info.

It is only recently I realised just how little information there is on places like youtube etc on the commercial construction of various types of garments. It quite surprises me. If I ever get 5 whole minutes together prehaps I should put some vids up there myself as I am a big believer in sharing knowledge.

Anyway, David. If you get the chance, do tell us what sort of garments you normally patternmake for. I have a non-tshirt business that I do my own designing/patternmaking/construction for which is mainly denim (www.wheeliewear.com.au) but the fashion design course I studied did have a good size portion dealing with knit wear and lingerie which was very intersting.

Kim
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