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I would like to find the better t-shirtswebstores that collect and sell several brands, like digitalgravel.com. Can anyone help me to more addresses, in the USA and in Europe?

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Striking: nobody knows any good site that sells t-shirts of different brands. So why making my own tees? I think I found a hole in the market. Digitalgravel and freshcotton: your monopoly is over!
 

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There's a lot more than two - for one thing you don't have defunker on that list. I've been to over a dozen of them; I just don't like them, remember them, or recommend them.

Personally I hate those aggregator sites. They all too often focus on a narrow brand of fashion that can appeal to the mainstream. For starters, I tend to be more attracted to alternative fashion (isn't that the whole point of niche marketing?). Then there's the fact that by definition these sites have to be behind the times, because they can only stock a product after it has existed elsewhere - and who wants to be a Johnny-Come-Lately (with or without their own midget)?

Pretty much every single one of those sites I've ever been to has a much more limited size range than normal, which again restricts my interest. Then there's also the fact that it's just not practical to browse them. They tend to have over the top site design that is more style than substance, they have too many disparate designs and no sorting mechanisms. As a customer I just can't be bothered with them.

Now as a seller I'd probably be entirely happy to contribute some designs to them. Obviously it depends on the site and the specific contract, but I think they're potentially worthwhile. I just can't stand them as a customer.

I guess that means there is still room in the market for someone to do a better job, but there are a glut of large sites out there that give the impression of being successful.
 

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I've got some more on my list, but several of them are not specialised in t-shirts, as digitalgravel is. But what is mainstream and what is alternative for you? Do you think digitalgravel is mainstream? Can you give an example of alternative clothing? I think you're right about 'behind the time', but not everybody is a pioneer.
I think it is a good idea to sell them just a part of the stock, not everything. The other part van be sold to retailers or on an own site.

That brings me to another question: Should these sites, that sell several brands, be considered as retailers, when delevering them clothing, thinking at prices, or is there a difference? I mean t-shirtsites that sell own t-shirts sell them to lower prices than t-shirtsites that 'collect' several brands. And the prices at retailers on the street are even higher, probably.

Sorry for my 'faulty' english.
 

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I've got some more on my list, but several of them are not specialised in t-shirts, as digitalgravel is.
True, a lot of the sites I come across tend to stock accessories, etc. (and sometimes homewares) as well as t-shirts. There is a definite argument that that weakens their image and makes their site more complicated than it needs to be.

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But what is mainstream and what is alternative for you? Do you think digitalgravel is mainstream? Can you give an example of alternative clothing?
That is unfortunately very hard to define. To be blunt, it mostly depends on how much of an elitist I feel like being at the time. Our egos so often get in the way of our judgement after all.

For example, I would often describe Threadless as mainstream because they're a huge company that must appeal to a wide audience. Walking around the streets in a city on the opposite side of the world (Melbourne) I will see people wearing their designs. On the other hand if I surveyed 5,000 random strangers on the street how many of them are going to have heard of Threadless? Does their design resemble that of major (and entirely unoriginal) fashion houses like Louis Voutton? Are they like Paul Frank? (who I have a lot to say about, and none of it is good).

In other words, if I'm feeling like an elitist I would say Threadless is mainstream, if I'm being nicer (and more realistic) I'd say they're alternative.

(in either case it's one man's opinion on an issue that arguably isn't even important - they're all just labels, and used more often than not to hurt each other)

At least some of what digitalgravel stock is the kind of thing that I would call "mainstream for those who don't realise that's what they are". Stuff like Obey and LMAC that are pretty much as ubiquitous as Nike and Adidas these days. People wear them to feel like they're part of some cool group - and if they all meet up and go out everyone will be wearing the same cool one-off t-shirt. There's a lot of money in dupeing those kind of people (and we're all those kind of people at least sometimes - definitely including me).

I'm sure a lot of what digitalgravel do isn't like that at all though. It is somewhat hard for me to judge because they seem to be aiming at the skaters and taggers, and while I have some familiarity with their cultures, I'm not a skater or a tagger.

DG claim to be selling "underground and independently owned brands", as opposed to "mediocre mainstream brands" and that they have "turned away several major brands that have requested to be on [their] site". So if you believe the hype they're definitely not mainstream (though how they define Obey as anything other than a major brand is a mystery to me).

I don't know... too much of it looks like the stuff I'd see on kid's clothes at Target (or Walmart). Too much of it looks like it hasn't changed from what was being done ten or fifteen years ago (but it's not classic either - just dated).

Again, I must emphasise that I was very selective in what I looked at and I'm sure not everything on the site is like that.

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I think you're right about 'behind the time', but not everybody is a pioneer.
For sure. I don't like the sites, but that doesn't mean they won't make a whole heap of money (and be satisfying to run).

Vinci said:
I think it is a good idea to sell them just a part of the stock, not everything. The other part van be sold to retailers or on an own site.
Like I said I'd be happy to sell them stock. That's just a matter of money, and I like money. I just wouldn't give them my money (I am but a drop in the ocean however).

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That brings me to another question: Should these sites, that sell several brands, be considered as retailers, when delevering them clothing, thinking at prices, or is there a difference?
I'd consider them retailers, but they may see themselves differently. I think if you're dealing with a company on a wholesale level, it's often more important how a company sees itself than how you see them. They'll have their expectations, and it's a matter of whether or not you feel you can meet those and still make a reasonable profit.

It helps if you can know going in what kind of company they think they are (e.g. small retailer, one of the little guys, big corporate powerhouse, medium sized storefront, etc.), but it's mostly a matter of responding to the client.

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Sorry for my 'faulty' english.
There's no need to apologise for your English. As the cliche goes your English is better than my Dutch.
 

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I think an argument to see Threadless as alternative, despite of their t-shirts are sold worldwide, is that the alternative culture is worldwide, connected by the internet, and big, too. Maybe we must say Threadless is mainstream in a big alternative world.

Now I'm thinking wat will be the next step, after the printend t-shirts. How long will they be popular? Will alternative grow into the grey area between alternative and mainstream, and is the following step that alternative will be mainstream, what gives space for a new alternative culture? We will see it in a few years ....
 

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Well, since the "elitists" covered everything else about your question ;), I can at least offer another site to answer your initial question. Uncrate.com

Yeah yeah, I'm just the new guy, but I'm having fun. I have been reading for a while before I joined and posted. I only jest and with the utmost respect, you guys really know your stuff and I have already learned immensely from you all.

Thanks!
 
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