[23spiderman]

i've been printing using the light shirt pretreat from AA, and so far it's been GREAT. i'm spraying about the same amount as i would with the "white ink" pretreat, maybe a little less, with no staining. and i'm getting deep, dark blacks. i've only been printing black on white, and black on grey today, but these are the darkest blacks i've seen.

everyone needs to get some and try it in your shop. i don't know that i would use it on my large runs in the hundreds, but for my smaller shirt runs that i'm already charging a "retail" price, using the light pretreat is a no brainer!

 

[Stripes1]

We just ran some test prints with the white/poly pretreat and the result cam tout very good.

We used 50/50 white Jerzee blend for the test. Printed black ink on the shirt. Shirt that was pretreated came out very clear and dark. Shirt that was not pretreated printed very light. After heat press for 60 seconds the pretreated shirt stayed bold and the color stayed vibrant while the non pretreated shirt got this washed out look to it. Pictures of our results below (shirt on left was not pre treated, one on right was).

Definitely recommend using this stuff if you are looking for high quality print. Now we are going to try it on 100% cotton, more results to follow...

 

[23spiderman]

i should have mentioned that i printed on Gildan Softstyle (4.5oz 100% ringspun cotton) tees. this pretreat is a must on any garment with a mid to high poly count if you want bright colors.

 

[Stripes1]

We were amazed how vibrant the color stayed on the poly blend. Even after heat press the color stayed vibrant. Going to do some wash test now and see how it hold up.

 

[g.lupo]

Side by side u can definitely see the difference. That's my problem too, I'll get a 400 shirt order, and I want to preteat but that's an extra 4 hour of work with 2 people. I guess if I had two heat presses than I could be pressing shirts as shirts are printing so than only hour or so with 2 people. Can't wait to get new viper.

 

[Stripes1]

Looking into the viper as well. I think for now it's great to use the light pretext on small one off runs where you can get a good retail price per piece. The larger runs you could probably opt into screen printing if it's one color or make sure the custom sees a sample first without the pretreat so they know what they at getting.

 

[g.lupo]

i stick away from large one color jobs, and outsource that i was doing a 3 color on white, i added saturation to it and color boooster, he could see the difference from the screen print one he had ut like the no feel, and i saved him a bundle while i made a bundle

 

[23spiderman]

everytime i use my NeoFlex to print an older job that was handled by the EK rip (AnaJet), i fall in love a little more. add to that using the light garment pretreat, and i am one happy, giddy person! i'm using the pretreat on all my "retail" orders and it continues to amaze me...even when printing in production mode. very little art prep, if any, and it comes out GREAT, EVERY TIME!

if you haven't tried the light garment pretreat, get some and try it. you won't be disappointed!

 

[allamerican-aeoon]

When NeoFamilies are happy I am so so happy! If anyone not try it yet (NeoFamily only) please take my free offer. It will last forever. Us, live by quality nothing but quality and user friendly. Viper will be here soon to support you even further. AA will lose money when each time NeoFamily orders Viper but AA's pleasure will be way exceed than money loss. We are doing it because of AA is exist by and for NeoFamily. You are my hero.
Cheers! Beers are on me always.

 

[tshirtsusa]

When Peter first announced a free sample of poly treatment to all the neoflex owners a while back, I knew it would be good as AA would not offer something that made little difference compared to the old 50/50 treatment that was used.

I don't sell a lot of poly blends, but I use it on all the white shirts. I'm about to finish my 2nd bottle of this new treatment and customers have been very happy with the prints.

If Peter is still offering free samples and you haven't tried it yet, you should definitely give it a try...

 

[tshirtsusa]

One more thing I want to add about this treatment is that, I really don't have to worry about the white shirts yellowing.

In the past, I had to do almost no pressure for whites, otherwise, I would run into some yellowing on the shirts. With this treatment, I'm actually doing the same pressure on the heatpress as with black garments. Not having to adjust the pressure of the heatpress every time I change color makes printing a bit easier.

But please check and test your results as your results may vary...

Happy printing!

 

[tshirtsusa]

everyone needs to get some and try it in your shop. i don't know that i would use it on my large runs in the hundreds, but for my smaller shirt runs that i'm already charging a "retail" price, using the light pretreat is a no brainer!

Hey Sean,

For large runs in the hundreds, you don't put any treatment at all? How do you usually print large orders?

To be completely honest, white t-shirts with no treatment and one pass looks like crap. The print comes out looking like it's been washed already. I tried the two pass, but I'm running into problems of ink bleeding. So I tried 75% two times and it's seems to be working ok...for now. But having to print twice is not efficient. Is there a better way?

I only had to deal with one order larger than 100, but luckily it was pocket size printing only. So, printing twice at 75% worked fine. But man.... if it was a full size image, I would feel like I'm printing a dark garment with two pass...

 

[23spiderman]

i haven't had any issues with using the "Adult 3-Platen" environment for white shirts. 2 passes would kill productivity. i guess "crap" is relative, and if you're comparing to screen printing then there's just no comparison for that. i've printed 720x720 with pretreat and it looks great, and i've done 1440x720 with pretreat and the colors are even richer, but if you never see it with the pretreat, the customer won't even notice it's missing. side-by-side, and they would definitely pick the one that was pretreated, so you could use that as a selling point. print 2 samples, one with pretreat and one without, and let the customer choose which one they want. just be sure to upcharge for the pretreated shirts.

as of now, i'm not charging any extra to use the pretreat, but i'm only using it on small runs.

 

[SuicideCharley]

When NeoFamilies are happy I am so so happy! If anyone not try it yet (NeoFamily only) please take my free offer.

Does the offer stand for newbies as well? If so PM me some details on how to get a sample.

SC

 

[allamerican-aeoon]

Does the offer stand for newbies as well? If so PM me some details on how to get a sample.

SC

Newbie or oldbie or freshbie or wornbie, it does not matter. As long as you are NeoFamily we are more than happy to ship out to you asap. NeoFamily's success is only Way to AA success. AA success is totally belong to you.
Just copy paste my post and email to orders[USER=27311]@screenprints[/USER]upply.com
Just pay shipping pls.
Cheers! Beers are on me always. I wish you love us as much as AA does. Pride!

 

[bassfade]

Hello everyone, I am a holder of NEOFLEX in Italy, as regards the pre-treatment for Light Shirt, is problem for me have good results two passages of color, but with this pretreatment with a single step, you get bright colors and deep blacks that last after a few washes, or fades quickly after the first wash? How you use this pretreatment for the Light Shirt? the timing of temperature and pressure? not yellow t-shirt?? but especially in Italy is not as I do?? directly from AA
I'd like to try it
sorry for my bad English

Hello Fade

 

[allamerican-aeoon]

Hi NeoItaly,
You can use same as dark PT. yes it will help less wash out and brighter color with less ink(?). AA offers 1liter free to all over the world. You just pay shipping which is much more than light/poly pt. if you like it you can order by ship 20liter or 30g or 50g. You can run new business, lol.
Cheers! Beers are on me alway.

 

[23spiderman]

i've found when using the light shirt pretreat, the less you use the better. i put about half the amount of light shirt pretreat as compared to the white ink pretreat.

 

[bassfade]

Hi NeoItaly,
You can use same as dark PT. yes it will help less wash out and brighter color with less ink(?). AA offers 1liter free to all over the world. You just pay shipping which is much more than light/poly pt. if you like it you can order by ship 20liter or 30g or 50g. You can run new business, lol.
Cheers! Beers are on me alway.

perfect as I proceed to have the sample of PT test? thanks for the answer

 

[Stripes1]

We have ran comparisons with and without the light pretreat on the same images and you can tell the quality difference. It's a no brainier to use the pretreat if you are looking for a higher quality print. We used to do the double pass but you will see that you are sacrificing the detail of the print by doing that. Putting down the light pretreat gives you a good clean base to print crisp images on.