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Hi there,

i have a problem with one picture, few tests with different settings but i don't get an good result. See my photo. does anyone have an idea where the problem is? other pictures are no problem. i use transferrip.

https://ibb.co/i4pjfn
https://ibb.co/f1UvmS

155°C from A-B for 120 seconds, 30 seconds to 100% cotton shirt, light-medium pressure.

thanks!

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Lnfortun
I reposted them for you so the links are active.

https://ibb.co/i4pjfn
https://ibb.co/f1UvmS

It looks like black is overlaid with white toner. Try removing the black in TransferRip so black overlaid with white opaque from B will not transfer.

BTW black fo CMYW printer is not true black it is CMY composite black.
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Lnfortun said:
I reposted them for you so the links are active.

https://ibb.co/i4pjfn
https://ibb.co/f1UvmS

It looks like black is overlaid with white toner. Try removing the black in TransferRip so black overlaid with white opaque from B will not transfer.

BTW black fo CMYW printer is not true black it is CMY composite black.
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Thanks! But i dont know what you mean. Du you mean the rasterize for Black Shirts Option? but i need the Black because the Shirt is used Black. the Black is darker than the black from the Shirt. is it not possible to print Black on Black? can you tell me what you mean please? thank you very much!!

or do you mean remove white and not Black..?
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moffoys said:
Thanks! But i dont know what you mean. Du you mean the rasterize for Black Shirts Option? but i need the Black because the Shirt is used Black. the Black is darker than the black from the Shirt. is it not possible to print Black on Black? can you tell me what you mean please? thank you very much!!

or do you mean remove white and not Black..?
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The problem when you include the black of the image is when you marry the sheets the black part will pull the white opaque from the B sheet which will mute the back when pressed on the shirt. There is an option in TransferRip to remove the color of the shirt before you rasterize the image. Then the color of the shirt becomes the black of the transferred image.
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do you mean the option "rasterized for black or dark shirts" or do you mean the option "remove color" in step "color management"? I understand, i cant print black (black from cmy) ? it says If I print black on a red oder blue shirt I would have the same problem?
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moffoys said:
do you mean the option "rasterized for black or dark shirts" or do you mean the option "remove color" in step "color management"? I understand, i cant print black (black from cmy) ? it says If I print black on a red oder blue shirt I would have the same problem?
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Try rasterize for black shirt or remove color which will be removing black. This will only work for black shirt. You need black when you use blue shirt. Black is printed using CMY black and not true black.
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yes nur when i print this picture with Black on a Blue shirt, i think i have the same Probleme like a Black Shirt, the print is too bright.. so is it not possible to print this picture!? it is always too bright?
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I suggest you contact @LucidDavid. He is an expert with TransferRip and Forever transfers. Send him a PM. He will probably walk you through the best steps.
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Have you tried printing using TransferRip - Screening for dark material? You can adjust the amount of non-white print to allow for the elimination of the issue. I'm no expert on it .... use TransferRip regularly tho.

The issue you're facing is the B paper leaving a trace of white against the dark on the A Paper which lightens the dark (hope that just made sense).

You may need to use a trial & error method to determine what the correct settings would be for this specific print.
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paradigmprint said:
Have you tried printing using TransferRip - Screening for dark material? You can adjust the amount of non-white print to allow for the elimination of the issue. I'm no expert on it .... use TransferRip regularly tho.

The issue you're facing is the B paper leaving a trace of white against the dark on the A Paper which lightens the dark (hope that just made sense).

You may need to use a trial & error method to determine what the correct settings would be for this specific print.
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no because this is not the solution because i want print this picture to a blue shirt, a red shirt or whatever.. the problem black print must be solved general.
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moffoys said:
no because this is not the solution because i want print this picture to a blue shirt, a red shirt or whatever.. the problem black print must be solved general.
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Do you have Photoshop? You can try darkening or add depth to the image using overlay or multiply layer blending.

http://www.t-shirtforums.com/attachments/244954d1510768917-ic-light-not-bonding-properly-how-use-multiply-overlay-photoshop.pdf

It might help enhance the image. The thing is it is not the white toner that is making the transferred image light. It is the opaque from B sheet that coats the black toner. Even though according to Okidata the printer does not flood black with white toner it is inevitable that opaque will bond on the the black toner.
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Lnfortun said:
Do you have Photoshop? You can try darkening or add depth to the image using overlay or multiply layer blending.

http://www.t-shirtforums.com/attachments/244954d1510768917-ic-light-not-bonding-properly-how-use-multiply-overlay-photoshop.pdf

It might help enhance the image. The thing is it is not the white toner that is making the transferred image light. It is the opaque from B sheet that coats the black toner. Even though according to Okidata the printer does not flood black with white toner it is inevitable that opaque will bond on the the black toner.
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Thanks man! Yeah, i have photoshop and want try your solution but i have no hope :-( but i want try it!!
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moffoys said:
Thanks man! Yeah, i have photoshop and want try your solution but i have no hope :-( but i want try it!!
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If I were you I would place multiple small copies of the image in one sheet. Adjust each with different levels. Make note of the values for each image. Press it on scrap shirt. Please post photos.

Make the adjustments after it has been rasterized. Otherwise TransferRip will negate the adjustment.

I rasterized the image. Knocked out most of the black using screen method in Photoshop. The first image has transparent background. The second image is with black background. So basically the shirt color will show through the void as black.

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