Neat idea though!
Hi Felix, welcome to the forums.Keystroketshirts said:We just launched our new store.
can I get a site review from the community?
Anything you folks can tell me will help!
Thanks,
[email protected]
I don't necessarily agree that mouseovers are cooler. But I agree with the rest of the stuff. You're a usability naziJasonda said:Mouse-over is more "cool", but it isn't used in web design very often, and most people just click on things rather than hovering around waiting to see if something will happen.
Actually I don't think mouse-overs are really that cool. But some people think so, and that's why they use them. Like flash pages (ugh).farennikov said:I don't necessarily agree that mouseovers are cooler. But I agree with the rest of the stuff. You're a usability nazi.
I totally agree. And I am becoming more and more usability-conscious.Jasonda said:I don't think of myself as a "usability nazi" (nazis = ugh).But I do think usability should always be at the top of the agenda for people who are building websites. After all, if your main goal is to sell something - don't make it harder than it already is!
That is a grand idea, I will need to talk to Felix (the president of the company) about this...Jasonda said:If your customers hear your website name via word-of-mouth, they might make the same mistake as I did. Better register keystrokeshirts.com and forward your customers to the correct website.![]()
I agree that we may not be the first store selling the t-shirts, but we are the first store to our knowledge (after countless google/yahoo searches) that specializes in this type of shirt. So, maybe we should specify that instead... i.e. "Specializing in the art of the Emoticon and ASCII Art T-Shirt!"Jasonda said:I seriously doubt you are the "World's First" shop selling emoticon t-shirts. I have seen them in other places. It's much better to be the best of something, rather than the first.
Well, thats a PLUS! LOL...Jasonda said:Your website design is very simple, clean and loads quickly. Those are the good things.
The reason for the extensive rollovers:Jasonda said:But you are using a newer design technology (mouse-overs) that a lot of people are not familiar with, and it is causing some usability issues.
This is understandable... this could probably be fixed using a large number in the background of the image (the white space) that matches the number on the menu?Jasonda said:The mouse-over was delayed, and the designs are all very similar, I didn't even notice that the design on the shirt had changed.
This type of "pop-up" is only activated by the USERS mouse click, as such, I believe pop-up blockers do not hinder its ability to open.... am I wrong? Any way you could test it for me, haha?Jasonda said:Guess what? If I had a pop-up blocker installed, I would not have been able to see that message at all, and I would have assumed that the link didn't work!
...see above.Jasonda said:More pop-up problems. You have a lot of pages as pop-ups - your Help page, your Customer Reviews page, and even your PayPal shopping cart. If I had a pop-up blocker, I wouldn't be able to see any of these!
Good ideas there... and im not sure what happened with the 'more' text running over the other text, I must have overlooked an alignment issue, thank you for pointing that out, it renders nicely on my browsers... and everything is left aligned like it should be... I will have to look into that!Jasonda said:Your Customer Review page should be linked from the title bar or footer. Or it should at least have a title like "See what our customers are saying!" instead of "Mary F. 09-08-06". Also, as viewed in Firefox, the box around it is formatted incorrectly. The "More" link overlaps the text.
We, Felix and myself, both agree.... we will be fixing that ASAP... sorry for the ROBOT 3000 speak!Jasonda said:The Home page seems casual and friendly, with the little ASCII guy holding up a sign and everything, but your Help page is exactly the opposite. The way it is written seems very cold and business-like.
This was also a big turn-off:
"How to submit a contact request:
We cannot extend support if you do not include your -Submitting the above, in full, will help expedite your response time."
- Full Name
- Order Number
- Description of inquiry
- Contact Phone Number
I agree, something we will have to add in the near future...Jasonda said:Other things your site could really use: A sizing chart for your t-shirts. Sizing and fit can vary greatly between different t-shirt brands. Also, pictures of real people wearing your shirts could really liven the site up and make it feel "real". It will also give people a better idea of what to expect when they order.
Thats the best kind of critique...... the only way we learn! Thanks a million times over...........Jasonda said:Well that's all I can think of for now. I am sorry if it seems like I am being a little brutal, but if I told you it was "All good" I wouldn't be helping you much.![]()
The main reason for this was that we thought customers would feel safer ordering from us.... these buttons are showing up more and more everyday on more mainstream websites..... just something to sway their opinion of our site I guess? Besides removing them totally, any other suggesstions farennikov?farennikov said:Hi Keystroketshirts.com,
Is there a particular reason why you put these two icons on the page?
and
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Do you think your visitors need to know that your site is validated?
Btw do you think Google is validated? It's FAR from being validated, but you know what, people don't care.
Well see, thing is that usual customers have NO idea about HTML validation. Plus validation has nothing to do with how secure the site is, it just ensures comliance with HTML code standards. And if a visitor what it is, he/she can view the page source.Keystroketshirts said:The main reason for this was that we thought customers would feel safer ordering from us.... these buttons are showing up more and more everyday on more mainstream websites..... just something to sway their opinion of our site I guess? Besides removing them totally, any other suggesstions farennikov?
Thanks a bunch for your reply,
Chris Underwood
KeystrokeTshirts.com Developer
this makes complete sense....... thank you...farennikov said:In my opinion you don't need these images there. If you had a seal with Verisign or Hacker safe - that would have that effect that you're looking for, not the HTML validation.
In a long run this will play to your disadvantage. First of all, this concept has no flexibility buil-in. Say you double the number of your designs. How will it work then? You'll scroll down to see thumbnails (in o rder to mouse-over the boxes) but the main image will be already behind the screen. This is not gonna work. Secondly, each time you mouseout from those little boxes, main image chages to default. What's the point?Keystroketshirts said:The reason for the extensive rollovers:
In discussing the sites' design and programming, Felix decided he wanted ONE page with all the shirts in one window with the ability to view the color options as well... Basically, a one page store, the one-stop shop!
This was meant to re-enforce the shirt of the month....... so the user gets to see it more often (featured item)...farennikov said:Secondly, each time you mouseout from those little boxes, main image chages to default. What's the point?
You should also get www.keystroket-shirts.com. A few more $'s but well worth it for the peace of mind.Keystroketshirts said:That is a grand idea, I will need to talk to Felix (the president of the company) about this...
If it was up to me, I would put "Emoticon and ASCII Art T-shirts at KeystrokeTshirts.com". Better for bookmarking!Keystroketshirts said:I agree that we may not be the first store selling the t-shirts, but we are the first store to our knowledge (after countless google/yahoo searches) that specializes in this type of shirt. So, maybe we should specify that instead... i.e. "Specializing in the art of the Emoticon and ASCII Art T-Shirt!"
For a limited amount of designs, your "1-stop shop" works just fine and it is actually one of the nicer examples of a 1-page store that I have seen. Since you are already working on V. 2 with seperate product pages for each shirt, this is good for now.Keystroketshirts said:The reason for the extensive rollovers:
In discussing the sites' design and programming, Felix decided he wanted ONE page with all the shirts in one window with the ability to view the color options as well... Basically, a one page store, the one-stop shop!
You don't have to get rid of the mouse-overs. Right now when you click on the pictures it opens the pop up. I am sure you can change it so that when you click, instead of opening the pop up, it changes the design on the shirt. That way, mouse-overs can stay, but you will have the clickability as a back-up for those who are click-happy (like me).Keystroketshirts said:So, having these instructions, this is what I came up with... any other suggesstions would be great, as we are already looking forward to version 2 of the site. Although, version 2 will most likely have a seperate page for each t-shirt, which will eliminate all the mouseover issues you listed...
Yup - that would work, or you could do just a smaller number in the corner of the white space. But I do think your site could benefit from just a bit more color. You are already using red for some text, so you could just put a red/white pattern of the number, or the ASCII character in the background of the t-shirt pic. Or something like that.Keystroketshirts said:This is understandable... this could probably be fixed using a large number in the background of the image (the white space) that matches the number on the menu?
I really don't know if it absolutely WILL be blocked by all pop-up stoppers, I am just saying it is a possibility. I can't test it myself because I don't have a pop-up blocker. In any case, even if they are not blocked, pop-ups are almost always unexpected and annoying. Use sparingly!Keystroketshirts said:This type of "pop-up" is only activated by the USERS mouse click, as such, I believe pop-up blockers do not hinder its ability to open.... am I wrong? Any way you could test it for me, haha?
LMAO, I can honestly say I have lost some sleep over this issue (as small as it may seem to be).....Jasonda said:You don't have to get rid of the mouse-overs. Right now when you click on the pictures it opens the pop up. I am sure you can change it so that when you click, instead of opening the pop up, it changes the design on the shirt. That way, mouse-overs can stay, but you will have the clickability as a back-up for those who are click-happy (like me).![]()
I understand. But ask yourself a question - do your visitors think the way you want them to think? Do they know that it goes back to the same shirt because it's a featured item? The deal is that your visitors don't know that it's supposed to be a "featured item", it doesn't say it anywhere, so the impression is that it's just not really user-friendly.Keystroketshirts said:This was meant to re-enforce the shirt of the month....... so the user gets to see it more often (featured item)...
And for the additional t-shirts, this again was a design issue from the drawing board... Felix only wanted 13 designs available to the customer for the first version of this website.... version 2 will most definately have separate t-shirt pages.....
thanks again....
Hi Chris,Keystroketshirts said:Now that you know our thought process for the design implementation, what do you think?![]()