owh and gotshirts I was not taking a shot at them I was saying yesterday taking 14 hours really sucked I thought for sure I would have the kinks worked out but im still working on it I was not talking about the product but the time I spents beating my head on the table because i could not figure out what I was doing wrong, I not the product, witch is why i had two threads going, trying to figure if it was printer or transfers all things lead me to the transfers, and print size so please help and don't cause problems and have a good day