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Inkjet Transfer Paper and Transfer Masks (Ink Gets Pulled Off)

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Hi all,

I have been using 3 brands of inkjet transfer paper for dark shirts for testing. NuCoat Perma Trans, 3G Opaque and Paropy.

They print and transfer great although the ink color on the Paropy tends to get a little dark after pressing. I am not going to be using this brand most likely.

I like the feel of the Perma Trans, it has the softest hand feel of all three but the colors aren't as vivid as the 3G opaque.

My issue with when I use transfer masks to lift the weeded designs off the carrier. I have used Stahls, Siser TTD and Coastal brands both low and high tack. But after pressing the transfer with the mask I notice that a yellow ink tint is lifted off and stays on the clear transfer mask which alters the finished color of the pressed design quite a bit. Has anyone experienced this or actually ever noticed that color gets lifted off with these mask films? After you press a design hold the empty clear film against a white piece of paper. You'll notice it then!

I have done side by side testing by pressing the same design with and without the transfer mask and you can see that when using the transfer mask the color isn't as vivid.

Do I need to let the ink dry after printing the heat transfer paper for a certain amount of time? I'll be testing this later to confirm.
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Do I need to let the ink dry after printing the heat transfer paper for a certain amount of time? I'll be testing this later to confirm.
Yes, wait overnight if you can. If you cant you can try drying it with a little heat from a press or conveyor dryer. Never noticed any ink transfer and we only wait an hour give or take.

It could also be your putting down too much ink possibly.
Yes, wait overnight if you can. If you cant you can try drying it with a little heat from a press or conveyor dryer. Never noticed any ink transfer and we only wait an hour give or take.

It could also be your putting down too much ink possibly.
I have let it dry for several hours, I even tried it with draft print setting and normal print setting t see if too much ink was being laid down and I still get yellow ink removed from the transfer that remains on the clear transfer mask after pressing. The oddest thing.

No matter what I print it is only a tint of the yellow ink that remains on the transfer mask.
Discovered my issue. I switched my inks to Dye Based instead of Pigment Based and now all is well with the transfers. No ink gets pulled off with the transfer mask.
Discovered my issue. I switched my inks to Dye Based instead of Pigment Based and now all is well with the transfers. No ink gets pulled off with the transfer mask.
But yo transfers will not be washing well. Use pigment inks for the best wash.

Dyes fade and bleed as they are water soluble. Pigments are tiny particles and solid.
I will continue to test.

To be fair dye inks these days aren't the same dye inks in from years ago. They now last longer that they use to and provide a much brighter output. So far after a few washes the design looks exactly the same.
I will continue to test.

To be fair dye inks these days aren't the same dye inks in from years ago. They now last longer that they use to and provide a much brighter output. So far after a few washes the design looks exactly the same.
Chemistry and physics haven't changed. The dyes used in inkjet inks are water soluble.

No dye inks can pass this test.

To test the inks, after pressing the image to the shirt, dunk the shirt in HOT water, then lay on a flat surface, (in the bath tub) and fold the image over onto the blank part of the shirt. Press it down firmly with your hands and let it set for 30 to 60 minutes. Unfold the shirt and if the inks bleed onto the blank part of the shirt, they will fade. If no bleeding, then you should be good to go. This is an accepted test for all inks. If the inks are going to bleed, they should bleed in this test.
I will continue to test.

To be fair dye inks these days aren't the same dye inks in from years ago. They now last longer that they use to and provide a much brighter output. So far after a few washes the design looks exactly the same.
You can get pigment inks that don't have the yellow shift or the yellow residue.

https://www.inksupply.com/heat_transfer_ink.cfm
Chemistry and physics haven't changed. The dyes used in inkjet inks are water soluble.

No dye inks can pass this test.

To test the inks, after pressing the image to the shirt, dunk the shirt in HOT water, then lay on a flat surface, (in the bath tub) and fold the image over onto the blank part of the shirt. Press it down firmly with your hands and let it set for 30 to 60 minutes. Unfold the shirt and if the inks bleed onto the blank part of the shirt, they will fade. If no bleeding, then you should be good to go. This is an accepted test for all inks. If the inks are going to bleed, they should bleed in this test.
I will certainly give this a try and test my prints. And also thanks for the link to heat transfer inks. I will check those out as well. As with inks not two transfers are the same either but I will but my shirts to the test.
Hi all,

I have been using 3 brands of inkjet transfer paper for dark shirts for testing. NuCoat Perma Trans, 3G Opaque and Paropy.

They print and transfer great although the ink color on the Paropy tends to get a little dark after pressing. I am not going to be using this brand most likely.

I like the feel of the Perma Trans, it has the softest hand feel of all three but the colors aren't as vivid as the 3G opaque.

My issue with when I use transfer masks to lift the weeded designs off the carrier. I have used Stahls, Siser TTD and Coastal brands both low and high tack. But after pressing the transfer with the mask I notice that a yellow ink tint is lifted off and stays on the clear transfer mask which alters the finished color of the pressed design quite a bit. Has anyone experienced this or actually ever noticed that color gets lifted off with these mask films? After you press a design hold the empty clear film against a white piece of paper. You'll notice it then!

I have done side by side testing by pressing the same design with and without the transfer mask and you can see that when using the transfer mask the color isn't as vivid.

Do I need to let the ink dry after printing the heat transfer paper for a certain amount of time? I'll be testing this later to confirm.
I do not use a transfer mask for that reason. I just make sure the design is connected with various outlines and such.

No way around it.

Best way is to press, lift, rub , cold peel. Ink still comes off just less of it.

Here is how I do it...

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I will certainly give this a try and test my prints. And also thanks for the link to heat transfer inks. I will check those out as well. As with inks not two transfers are the same either but I will but my shirts to the test.

On some opaques the dyes might be "encapsulated" to some acceptable degree, but if you use dyes on regular inkjet transfers meant for white or loght colors dyes are just not good washing.
You can get pigment inks that don't have the yellow shift or the yellow residue.

https://www.inksupply.com/heat_transfer_ink.cfm
These inks are only for Epson?
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