Ink Won't Transfer to Mouse Pad

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Zaxx81

Discussion Starter · Dec 2, 2017

Bought all this stuff to due some sublimation projects and my first attempt has failed. I set the heat press to 400F and did a medium pressure for 60 seconds (tried again later for 75 seconds) and none of the ink transferred to the mouse pad. See below for the products used:

- Epson Artisan 1430 Wireless Color Wide-Format Inkjet Printer and Ink Bundle
by Epson http://a.co/co27TdD
- A Sub Sublimation Paper http://a.co/iEnIzCH
- Techtongda 10pcs Blank Mouse Pad For Sublimation INK Transfer Heat Press Printing Crafts http://a.co/bFP6KUa
- ePhoto 16" x 24" Digital Clamshell Heat Press Transfer T-Shirt Sublimation Press MACHINE
by ePhotoInc http://a.co/7pQwdF5

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Zaxx81

Discussion Starter · #2 · Dec 2, 2017

So I guess it shows that I didn't fully understand the process. Sublimation paper will not work with the packaged Claria Ink. So since I plan on using this printer for framed artwork/photos in addition to transfers, how good are the JetPro SofStretch Inkjet Heat Transfers? Does that paper make the Claria ink work for the actual sublimation dye process of dying the substrate? Or is going to wash out like cotton iron-ons?

Looks like I'm stuck in a weird place where I spent a lot of money to get started and I can't even start. Can you switch back and forth from sublimation dye cartridges and inkjet cartridges?

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Amw

· #3 · Dec 3, 2017

Zaxx81 said:
So I guess it shows that I didn't fully understand the process. Sublimation paper will not work with the packaged Claria Ink. So since I plan on using this printer for framed artwork/photos in addition to transfers, how good are the JetPro SofStretch Inkjet Heat Transfers? Does that paper make the Claria ink work for the actual sublimation dye process of dying the substrate? Or is going to wash out like cotton iron-ons?

Looks like I'm stuck in a weird place where I spent a lot of money to get started and I can't even start. Can you switch back and forth from sublimation dye cartridges and inkjet cartridges?

You need sublimation ink (dyesub) to be able to do sublimation.
You will also need a color profile for the ink/printer/paper combination.
(You should be able to get this from the ink supplier you get the dyesub ink from)
Yes you can switch between pigment ink and dyesub...but its better to have dedicated printers for each.
Using JPSS with your current ink will make it a cotton transfer.

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Zaxx81

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 3, 2017

Amw said:
You need sublimation ink (dyesub) to be able to do sublimation.
You will also need a color profile for the ink/printer/paper combination.
(You should be able to get this from the ink supplier you get the dyesub ink from)
Yes you can switch between pigment ink and dyesub...but its better to have dedicated printers for each.
Using JPSS with your current ink will make it a cotton transfer.

Will the JPSS work on polyester too? Any clue on how wash fade is with JPSS?

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WalkingZombie

· #5 · Dec 3, 2017

Zaxx81 said:
Will the JPSS work on polyester too? Any clue on how wash fade is with JPSS?

100% cotton and up to 50/50 cotton/polyester blend.

Best results are achieved when used on 4oz to 6.5oz fabric weight shirts (based on cotton weight).

Inks that can be used with JPSS are, Dye based inks, Pigment based inks, Sublimation inks, Solvent inks and/or Eco-solvent inks.

Many here that have used JPSS will most likely agree that they last a VERY long time when using Pigment inks. My wife still has shirts that I made her from over 2 years ago, using JPSS and pigment inks, and the print quality hasn't degraded much at all. - Of course, we wash and dry most of our clothes in cold water/extra low heat, which may help.

I love using JPSS along side pigment ink. Surprisingly, we haven't been able to test how well sublimation inks work but since JPSS is a polyester based transfer sheet, the sublimation inks should permanently dye the JPSS sheet.

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Zaxx81

Discussion Starter · #6 · Dec 5, 2017

WalkingZombie said:
100% cotton and up to 50/50 cotton/polyester blend.

So it won't work with 100% polyester? The details for the JPSS said it does.

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WalkingZombie

· #7 · Dec 5, 2017

Zaxx81 said:
So it won't work with 100% polyester? The details for the JPSS said it does.

Ah yes. Looks like "poly fabric" is accepted too. Long ago, it was only 100% cotton and 50/50. Thanks for keeping me updated.

Also, it was never made for a hand iron and now there are instructions to accomplish that.

Here are the instructions straight from Neenah.

http://www.neenahperformance.com/~/.../Sell Sheets/Neenah_Inkjet_Heat_Transfer.ashx

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Zaxx81

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 5, 2017

WalkingZombie said:
Ah yes. Looks like "poly fabric" is accepted too. Long ago, it was only 100% cotton and 50/50. Thanks for keeping me updated.

Also, it was never made for a hand iron and now there are instructions to accomplish that.

Here are the instructions straight from Neenah.

http://www.neenahperformance.com/~/.../Sell Sheets/Neenah_Inkjet_Heat_Transfer.ashx

Ugh...I bought this Epson Artison 1430 to do this sublimation stuff not realizing the dye ink isn't the same as sublimation ink. Now I have this alternative using these JPSS and it of course is recommended to use pigment ink.

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WalkingZombie

· #9 · Dec 5, 2017 (Edited)

Zaxx81 said:
Ugh...I bought this Epson Artison 1430 to do this sublimation stuff not realizing the dye ink isn't the same as sublimation ink. Now I have this alternative using these JPSS and it of course is recommended to use pigment ink.

You can head over to Cobra Ink, purchase a set of pre-filled pigment cartridges as well as a set of pre-filled sublimation cartridges and switch between the two if you'd like. Not the most cost effective way, but it's possible. I would purchase at least 1oz. bottles of each ink type for refilling, since switching between cartridges can flush a good amount of ink and you definitely don't want to run the cartridges low/dry (then you'll have more issues). If it works for you, then you can purchase larger bottles later.

Or you can just purchase a set of pre-filled sublimation cartridges and stick with sublimation since that's what your initial goal was. Request a color profile from Cobra as well. You may need it.

Replace the Claria cartridges with the pigment cartridges. It should do a flush when the new cartridges are put in and you can also print a large color wheel on a couple full pages (after it flushes) to help push out any remnants of the old ink. Then you should be good to go with sublimation.

Yea, you purchased the claria ink combo but at least you didn't buy bottles of it.

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