Illustrator CS6 help

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macman29681

Discussion Starter · Jun 4, 2014

Every time I open a file in illustrator CS6 it seems to default to working CMYK U.S. web coated (SWOP) v2 under the proof setup menu. Even if I change it to RGB and save the file it still open under CMYK settings. How can I stop this from happening? I appreciate anyones help with this matter.

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bentcycle

· #2 · Jun 6, 2014

i have no idea, but i'm considering getting a copy of CS6 myself to compliment the xara xtreme i plan to work with to get around it's limitations without having to "rent" the CC version.

there might be an adobe forum where you're more likely to get an answer if you don't get one here.

i was just hoping to gain some insight on it here myself. good luck finding an answer.

20vK

· #3 · Jun 7, 2014

Change your preferences.

Preferences control how every document opens. It doesn't matter if you change that document, the next one you open will open according to the "master document" that is controlled in preferences

macman29681

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 7, 2014

20vK said:
Change your preferences.

Preferences control how every document opens. It doesn't matter if you change that document, the next one you open will open according to the "master document" that is controlled in preferences

There is nothing under preferences that changes that setting.

sluggo2u

· #5 · Jun 7, 2014

I'm not on my CS6 rig right now but you should be able to choose rgb when you open a new file and then it should stick to rgb until you change it there again. Just like you height/width, bleed etc.

Same thing with align to pixel grid. If you don't change it there it will drive you nuts and you'll have to turn it off every time you make a new element.

macman29681

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 7, 2014

sluggo2u said:
I'm not on my CS6 rig right now but you should be able to choose rgb when you open a new file and then it should stick to rgb until you change it there again. Just like you height/width, bleed etc.

I do select RGB and it doesn't matter it defaults back to CMYK. Even after I save the file and open it again it goes from RGB to CMYK again.

sluggo2u

· #7 · Jun 7, 2014 (Edited)

macman29681 said:
I do select RGB and it doesn't matter it defaults back to CMYK. Even after I save the file and open it again it goes from RGB to CMYK again.

I'll fire up my CS6 rig in a bit. I just did it on my laptop with CS5 and it does stick once changed.

I'm changing the color mode in the new document dialog box that opens when you open a new doc. Do you have the advanced settings dropdown expanded in that dialog box?

Just tried it in CS6. Works just like CS5.

20vK

· #8 · Jun 7, 2014

I just went file- new.

Changed to cmyk and shut illi.

Restarted, file-new. Everything is set to cmyk now. Change it to rgb. Open that new file. Shut down illi. Reopen, new file is rgb.

Works fine for me

Cs6

20vK

· #9 · Jun 7, 2014

I understand you can so the same on the colour palette menu too on the fly out menu. Illi arts in what you out it in last on that - but it does not change the document colour mode like above, just the way the colour is described within that document, (which is determined when you does open a new document under file- new....... Colour mode is just under the document size)

sluggo2u

· #10 · Jun 7, 2014

20vK said:
I understand you can so the same on the colour palette menu too on the fly out menu. Illi arts in what you out it in last on that - but it does not change the document colour mode like above, just the way the colour is described within that document, (which is determined when you does open a new document under file- new....... Colour mode is just under the document size)

You are correct. Changing in the palette will only affect the element which is selected.

You have to follow through with opening a new file as well. It will not stick if you cancel out. You don't have to do anything with the new file other than close it.

I do a lot of tiny stuff with Illustrator. That align to pixel grid junk drove me mad until I finally figured out the only way to turn it off permanently was in the new file dialog box.

20vK

· #11 · Jun 7, 2014

sluggo2u said:
I do a lot of tiny stuff with Illustrator. That align to pixel grid junk drove me mad until I finally figured out the only way to turn it off permanently was in the new file dialog box.

Oh, tell me about it! I nearly threw my Mac out the window!

bentcycle

· #12 · Jun 7, 2014

see? illustrator IS complicated! that's why i've set my sights on xara. software that drives it's users nuts is seriously flawed as far as i'm concerned. if done correctly, you should be able to figure any program out without needing a manual, but hackers think users think like they do and can't be bothered to start with an ergonomic model for their software then simply program into it. instead they do it the opposite way... code a feature, then slap it wherever and just to make it more infuriating, hide it under a dozen levels of menues and give it a confusing name that obscures what it even does.

rant rant rant!

i'm not liking the fact i'll probably still need to learn at least a little bit of illustrator to do the things that xara doesn't yet.

20vK

· #13 · Jun 7, 2014

To be fair, I hadn't tried to learn the program at that time.

I did 1 video tutorial from Go Media (the second illi tutorial), and I was amazed at how quickly I got the hang of it.

I'd now consider myself to be a little bit of a competent designer - something I NEVER thought I'd ever be, given that I can't draw.

Once you learn how the program works, it's very logical, which is what I actually love about it.

sluggo2u

· #14 · Jun 7, 2014

bentcycle said:
see? illustrator IS complicated! that's why i've set my sights on xara. software that drives it's users nuts is seriously flawed as far as i'm concerned. if done correctly, you should be able to figure any program out without needing a manual, but hackers think users think like they do and can't be bothered to start with an ergonomic model for their software then simply program into it. instead they do it the opposite way... code a feature, then slap it wherever and just to make it more infuriating, hide it under a dozen levels of menues and give it a confusing name that obscures what it even does.

rant rant rant!

i'm not liking the fact i'll probably still need to learn at least a little bit of illustrator to do the things that xara doesn't yet.

Being a self taught hard-head is part of the problem for me. The more I use it the more I like it. There are almost always multiple ways to achieve what you're trying to do. I almost always find the easy way after failing and doing a google search.

Photoshop and Illustrator are my go to programs because I learned and am still learning on them. Never tried Corel. I messed around with Gimp and Inkscape a little bit but they feel foreign to me.

I've started tinkering with InDesign a bit to write instructions for some of my products and can tell you if you check out a few tutorials instead of doing the hard-head wing it method I so often use, you can be quite capable in the program very quickly.

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20vK

· #15 · Jun 8, 2014

YouTube changed the world.

It's just that I lot of the world hasn't caught up yet.

YouTube's an incredible resource, as are many vector tutorials online.

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Blackroot

· #16 · Jun 8, 2014

Create a base working document, put in all your gridlines, registers, color names, anything you need. Make the art board your preferred print size. Save it as "My template". ALl your preferences will be saved in that file. Then, when you make new art, open that file, then "save as" and rename the file. You will always have this original file to work from.

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miktoxic

· #17 · Jun 8, 2014

bentcycle said:
see? illustrator IS complicated! that's why i've set my sights on xara. software that drives it's users nuts is seriously flawed as far as i'm concerned. if done correctly, you should be able to figure any program out without needing a manual, but hackers think users think like they do and can't be bothered to start with an ergonomic model for their software then simply program into it. instead they do it the opposite way... code a feature, then slap it wherever and just to make it more infuriating, hide it under a dozen levels of menues and give it a confusing name that obscures what it even does.

rant rant rant!

i'm not liking the fact i'll probably still need to learn at least a little bit of illustrator to do the things that xara doesn't yet.

there's a learning curve for any software from microsoft office to maya 3d. go ahead and buy something because you think it's easy to learn and you will be frustrated from day one.

this xara might be great (in your eyes) but go try and get a job where the employer asks if anyone uses xara specifically.

good luck with that.

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ProSeparatorNJ

· #18 · Jun 9, 2014

bentcycle said:
see? illustrator IS complicated! that's why i've set my sights on xara. software that drives it's users nuts is seriously flawed as far as i'm concerned.

Of course software with a ton of features and functionality is complicated. How can it not be. It's like saying an airplane is "flawed" because it's much harder to use than a car.

bentcycle said:
if done correctly, you should be able to figure any program out without needing a manual

Sorry buddy, but that's terrible advice. In fact that's the reason people are struggling so much with software. They want to just launch the program and intuitively learn everything instead of opening a manual to page 1 and starting there. You won't get very far like that. A person needs to be willing to read a manual or plan for failure or very limited understanding.

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ProSeparatorNJ

· #19 · Jun 9, 2014

sluggo2u said:
I do a lot of tiny stuff with Illustrator. That align to pixel grid junk drove me mad until I finally figured out the only way to turn it off permanently was in the new file dialog box.

Snap to Pixel is under the "View" menu. You uncheck it there, it's unchecked permanently for all documents, new and old until you turn it back on again. On thing to consider is that it goes on automatically when you choose pixel preview. Maybe that has caused a misunderstanding.

sluggo2u

· #20 · Jun 9, 2014

ProSeparatorNJ said:
Snap to Pixel is under the "View" menu. You uncheck it there, it's unchecked permanently for all documents, new and old until you turn it back on again. On thing to consider is that it goes on automatically when you choose pixel preview. Maybe that has caused a misunderstanding.

Correct. Snap to grid is there as well. Align to pixel grid is a different animal. That's partly why I was being driven crazy because I had all the snaps turned off.

As far as I can tell the only way to get to align to pixel grid is in the new document dialog box with the advanced drop down opened(I call this the master switch) and in the options drop down in the transform panel. If it is on when you make a new document then each new shape you make defaults to align to pixel grid. You can uncheck it in the transform panel but each new element defaults to the pixel grid. Once you know it's there it's no big deal.

I never noticed it until I started making these tiny stencils I do for model airplanes.

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