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I would like to create transfers for shirts using a silk screen type process that is automated. Here is what I am thinking of
LINK I need to know HOW to operate one of these. Create the film, exposure, color registration , etc. Can anyone point me in the right direction.
 

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I am looking to print onto paper and then onto garment. Automated like a printing press for newspapers. Plate then run 1000 transfers in an hour. Should I be looking for a news paper press and just run inks through that?
 

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Autos can do 1200+ plastisol transfers an hour

If you want to print transfer ink, you're best off buying 10 Epson printers and loading them all up to get that speed. Much cheaper way to go.

You should look up what kind of transfer ink you want to use first, then you can choose the correct equipment
 

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The link you provided does not show a transfer machine - this is a flexo-litography press. Chinese on Aliabab add T - shirt to any product title even for 3d printers because alibaba system is positioning them higher this way.

I would suggest plastisol transfers. BTW why transfers and not direct print?
 

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The link you provided does not show a transfer machine - this is a flexo-litography press. Chinese on Aliabab add T - shirt to any product title even for 3d printers because alibaba system is positioning them higher this way.

I would suggest plastisol transfers. BTW why transfers and not direct print?
I have tried DTG and it is not COST effective. I order trasnfers from places like "Wild Side" and they go on multi color shirts. Also they do not have that "powder" on plastisol prints. THey require about 400°f an d 20 sec. Also they have a rubber feel once made. I buy them for about 25¢ 11x11 4 colors from new york.

I want to run a fully automated setup. Looking for something that cost quite a bit of $$. A newspaper press would work if loaded with plastisol inks then you would need to sprinkle the powder.
 

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Its easy, Newspaper printing press using garment ink ! Maybe a dryer at the end for flash dry? Its out there guys no way this dude I order from makes 1000 prints in 3 or 4 colors by hand to sell them to me for 30¢
 

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Flexo or newspaper press as you call it will not work. You can try offset transfers. pritning on offset press with CMYK and then white background with white in and screen printing and then apply powder.

But do mind that a good offset press will cost you milion bucks.

Plastisol transfers are made by automatic screen printing machines also.
 

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Its easy, Newspaper printing press using garment ink ! Maybe a dryer at the end for flash dry? Its out there guys no way this dude I order from makes 1000 prints in 3 or 4 colors by hand to sell them to me for 30¢
What ink does your dude use?

If it's plastisol, he can use an auto screen press, which we've already told you can knock out 1200 an hour.

If they are printed with inkjet ink, he can use 4 epson printers and knock them out with no labour at all.

So, what ink are you using?
 

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What ink does your dude use?

If it's plastisol, he can use an auto screen press, which we've already told you can knock out 1200 an hour.

If they are printed with inkjet ink, he can use 4 epson printers and knock them out with no labour at all.

So, what ink are you using?

I use waterproof pigment ink $50 A liter Nano Digital. My "dude" uses something rubbery. I have never seen the actual machine. I will upload a pic tomorrow to give you an idea. Could be an auto screen press.

BTW- ALL I use is epson. Hate the waste ink counters. Some models are ressetable some are not... Best picture quality hands down. Micro Piezo over thermal bubble any day
 

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Rubbery is almost certainly plastisol, which means he's using an auto screen printing press - look up M&R to get an idea of how they look.

Maybe around 25 grand for a 600 p/hour through to 150k, 200k for double that and more...... If you can keep up!
 

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I've no idea how heads make a difference when we are printing onto such a rough substrate as a T- shirt.

We're certainly rougher than both photo paper and normal paper, so I'm unsure whether there is an advantage of either head, or whether quality is totally lost when you go to a T-shirt. I know I can get awesome detail with a cheap printer with sublimation.
 

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I've no idea how heads make a difference when we are printing onto such a rough substrate as a T- shirt.

We're certainly rougher than both photo paper and normal paper, so I'm unsure whether there is an advantage of either head, or whether quality is totally lost when you go to a T-shirt. I know I can get awesome detail with a cheap printer with sublimation.
The print head doesn't actually ever touch the object but hovers over it dropping little ink drops on x&y axis . The print head matters because - Solvent & pigment & Dye inks are different liquids while pigment and dye work with a normal printer, solvent ink usually needs a special printer with a special print head made of special materials for solvent inks.

Epson printheads have the best resolution for CMYK setup and maybe CMYK/LC/LM setup. DTG printers are MODDED epsons.
 

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The print head doesn't actually ever touch the object but hovers over it dropping little ink drops on x&y axis . The print head matters because - Solvent & pigment & Dye inks are different liquids while pigment and dye work with a normal printer, solvent ink usually needs a special printer with a special print head made of special materials for solvent inks.

Epson printheads have the best resolution for CMYK setup and maybe CMYK/LC/LM setup. DTG printers are MODDED epsons.
I was referring to ink transfers, which seems to be the subject of the topic you started, if I'm not mistaken. You never mentioned DTG, which is a whole different animal - I know the ink head does not touch the shirt for transfers, which is what I was referring to. It sprays ink onto transfer paper - which is then pressed onto a rough shirt.

It seems like you already have your answers for high quantity transfer paper production then - just use a bunch of Epsons. I'm not sure of your questions - you ask how to get high transfer production numbers, then tell us you use ink for transfers, then give us a bunch of info on print heads. I'm not really sure what you are asking as half way through you seem to be telling us you do, infact understand print head technology - why wouldn't you buy a bunch of cheap Epsons like I told you in the first place for printer transfer production, (and that you seem to understand), rather than try and mess around with a $1000 000.00 newspaper press?

If it's the plastisol transfers you want, then look at an auto screen print press, which I also mentioned in my first reply to you.

I'm just somewhat confused as to what you want or what you're asking help for.
 

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Topic was How to make multi color silk screen transfers for cents and fast.

Its ok to go off topic. People will google this and learn something by reading it ;-)

20vk go me pointed in the right direction with

" M&R "
"25 grand "
" 600 p/hour"
 
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