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Ok. Question for you embroiderers. If I send you a design, along with the type fonts in that design, does the design still need to be digitized. Now that I'm thinking about it. Probably. You wouldn't need to if it was an embroidery font already loaded on your machine.

Even if I supply the fonts, the person would still need to digitize the fonts, wouldn't they.
 

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I think a lot of digitizing has become automated from what it once was. Corel Drawings could probably take care of your logo/text in just a few seconds. As far as what an embroiderer would charge for it, I'm unsure, as I just recently started researching embroidery. We have an ancient Melco which we're trying to put to use long enough to get a newer machine.
 

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If the fonts are true type and not custom in any way, most embroiders could do that without digitizing a file. I do this for customers daily. .... JB
 

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If you supplied the font in true type I can't see a reason to charge a "digitizing" fee.I would probably charge a setup fee if you were to supply the garmets.I would'nt recommend going to small on the font on top it will lose a lot of it's detail.

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Most digitizing softwares will convert trutype fonts with just a few clicks. Something like you posted would probably take me less than 5 minutes to get machine ready if I already had the fonts. I wouldn't charge for that.
 

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$60 is probably a minimum fee. I could see someone charging that. Corel wings converter wouldnt do a good job with this. It is better to draw the blue box and use the font digitizer. Otherwise the fonts would be custom digitized. The white letting should probably be kerned closer together so there wont be so many trims. Just a suggestion.

Are you going to sew these out yourself?
 

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$60 is probably a minimum fee. I could see someone charging that. Corel wings converter wouldnt do a good job with this. It is better to draw the blue box and use the font digitizer. Otherwise the fonts would be custom digitized. The white letting should probably be kerned closer together so there wont be so many trims. Just a suggestion.

Are you going to sew these out yourself?
The blue background just shows the color of the shirt I'm putting it on, and to show the white lettering on bottom. I currently source out my embroidery so no, I can't do these myself.
 

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The only issue I see with embroidering that logo would be trying to make it fit into a 4 inch wide hoop. Otherwise, it would take me less than 5 minutes to create a stitch file.

I'm guessing that as previously mentioned, the $60 is really their minimum setup and digitizing fee...
 

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$60.00 may be a little costly, but a trained digitizer is going to digitize the design exactly as shown, using expensive software and hardware. This person should do at least one sample sewout to make sure it looks perfect using an expensive commercial embroidery machine. In addition to doing the necessary paperwork for administrative purposes including billing the order is $60.00 for all that work really too much? This is an example how people sell themselves short in this industry. Everything takes time, and time is money. If you went into a Doctor's office and had a 5 minute exam, woudl that be free? Why are we always selling ourselves at a lower level? We are professionals and need to be paid as such. the word free shoudl never be mentioned with our equipment time or personal time.
 

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I never said the work should be done for free. I expect to pay for what I have done. But clearly I don't feel that if I submit two designs, one containing type and artwork that would need digitizing, and another with just type, with me providing the truetype fonts, they both would entail $60 in digitizing fees. I know what the equipment and software costs. I used the machines at different shops. I've had other embroiderers tell that if I provided the fonts, there would be no digitizing fees since the "expensive software" would do it automatically. My question in this thread, was not, why shouldn't this be free, but does a design containing only type have to be digitized when they have the fonts loaded in their system. I was questionig the $60 digitizing fee for something like that.
 

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So does it take more effort to digitize outlined (converted to artwork) type than it does to digitize a True Type font? I'm also looking into getting some embroidery done and am confused about this. :confused:
 

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So does it take more effort to digitize outlined (converted to artwork) type than it does to digitize a True Type font? I'm also looking into getting some embroidery done and am confused about this. :confused:
Yes it takes more time to digitize type converted to artwork than using a true type font and you will get a better file.
Creating lettering in an embroidery program using true type fonts is no guarantee that you are going to get a good file. The quality of the lettering will depend a lot on the embroidery program used. Wilcom or Pulse will almost always give you good lettering but with TES/Compucon, which I have, it is sometimes good but mostly not so good.
So, to get the best embroidery file you really should have someone digitize it all, including the lettering.
 

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Yes it takes more time to digitize type converted to artwork than using a true type font and you will get a better file.
Creating lettering in an embroidery program using true type fonts is no guarantee that you are going to get a good file. The quality of the lettering will depend a lot on the embroidery program used. Wilcom or Pulse will almost always give you good lettering but with TES/Compucon, which I have, it is sometimes good but mostly not so good.
So, to get the best embroidery file you really should have someone digitize it all, including the lettering.
Okay thanks for explaining. I have more questions but I don't want to hi-jack Greg's thread so I will start another one soon ...
 

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I wasn't implying you were asking for something for free and I said $60.00 may be a little high. I was just trying to make the point that everything needs to have a cost because someone is physically doing something after a certain amount of training that needs to be rewarded.
 

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I have pulse and compucon software, but the one that I have that does the best with truetype fonts is PE Design Ver. 7. It is rare to find a font that won't convert. With less than 8 mouse clicks and typing the word, I can have a truetype font ready to go to the machine.
 

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I never said the work should be done for free. I expect to pay for what I have done. But clearly I don't feel that if I submit two designs, one containing type and artwork that would need digitizing, and another with just type, with me providing the true type fonts, they both would entail $60 in digitizing fees. I know what the equipment and software costs. I used the machines at different shops. I've had other embroiderers tell that if I provided the fonts, there would be no digitizing fees since the "expensive software" would do it automatically. My question in this thread, was not, why shouldn't this be free, but does a design containing only type have to be digitized when they have the fonts loaded in their system. I was questionig the $60 digitizing fee for something like that.
I know you expect to pay, but I was offering to help you out. I help you and then you pass it on. I was just trying to help you out. I was not suggesting you were not willing to pay. ... JB
 

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The blue background just shows the color of the shirt I'm putting it on, and to show the white lettering on bottom. I currently source out my embroidery so no, I can't do these myself.
if that is the case then $60 seems high. our digitizing software will take any font and convert it to a sewing format. it is only a few minutes of work.

maybe try one of those cheap guys in china or vietnam.
 
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