[THX1138]

I am having top to bottom registration problems with a kiosk ii.
I am printing 720x720 2 passes on light garments and every 2 or 3 prints the registration is off on the second print.
I cleaned the rotating encoder with cleaning solution and a soft lint free towel and use an air canister to blow out dust from the area.
Is there anything else I should look at?

 

[FatKat Printz]

why are you printing 2 passes??

a light pretreat and press will save money and time instead of 2 passes.

it will brighten up the colors and it will last longer.

 

[THX1138]

why are you printing 2 passes??

a light pretreat and press will save money and time instead of 2 passes.

it will brighten up the colors and it will last longer.

and what am i supposed to do with dark garment printing?

 

[FatKat Printz]

same thing.. you shouldn't have to print 2 passes of ink.

if the artwork is really good then shouldn't be a problem. if the color isn't as bright as you want it then adjust the colors or the artwork.. try light pretreat for the lights and regular pretreat for darks.. you will notice a difference

we don't even pretreat our whites but if you have a preference for it then try it..but 2 passes of ink on a white shirt just eats into your profits.

 

[zhenjie]

Dual pass will always be better then single pass or single pass on pretreated shirt. Just look at how spray painters do their work, multiple passes to get best vibrancy and laydown.

I dont see how a pretreated shirt is any faster? I would see it as more labour and time then anything.

How off is the print when you do get a registration problem? Maybe a problem with the bedtray and rollers.

 

[THX1138]

i dont like the way the print looks with one pass. it is too washed out.

also, it will do at least 2 passes with the white ink, one for the white and 1 for the color.

so what else do i need to look at for the registration problem?

 

[zhenjie]

SEe how the bedtray rolls. Look underneath and check out the rollers. are they dirty? Is the yellow/white sheet under the tray dirty? If so, clean all of them. clean the white wheels as well.

 

[FatKat Printz]

try the light pretreat..

 

[zhenjie]

Light pretreat wont solve the registration problem he is facing.

 

[TahoeTomahawk]

I Agree with Carla,
in most cases a single pass with light pre-treat is better than 2 passes.
On the kiosk, 720 dpi x 2 becomes darker and over saturated and most of the time colors are off, esp Blue, Cyan, Reds, etc.

 

[FatKat Printz]

I understand it won't solve the registration problem..trying to steer away from the 2 passes of ink. Ink is expensive enough and if you are doing an unneeded pass you are just wasting money.

I agree that sometimes it does look washed out (usually its artwork or your ink delivery)..hence the light pretreat its the same pretreat you use for darks just a lighter coat.

How does printing a second pass save on time ?? it doesn't you can have a pretreated shirt done in the time a second pass is going.. plus the shirt is gonna last longer especially workability. Also, its not gonna give a heavy feel to it especially with 2 passes of ink.

wait till you have a 100 piece order and you have to print the shirt twice that's 200 prints..

clean your wheels .. that's gonna save time and labor!! if you are not in a forgiving environment you are gonna be cleaning it a lot.

 

[zhenjie]

It's just about efficiency. Not having to get up and pretreat shirts, a double pass is just done in the printer. A lot of people aren't fans of pretreatment and the process it entails. I understand its good but dont think its suitable for everyone when double pass works fine for so many people. Never experienced any 'heavy' hand with a second pass.

A double pass is standard for me, and from what others have said seems to be standard for them also. I'm sure its factored into everyone pricing and time.

 

[THX1138]

here is the image. the letters are about an inch high

this started happening on every 2nd to 4th print.

One more thing. Let's stick to the topic of getting the printer to work right rather the the pros and cons of double pass printing. We can take that to another thread if you like.

 

[vinyl signs]

One thing you can try is to place some marks on you platen and see if it goes to these marks each time you load and eject it. If it goes to the same position every time you test it then I would try running a repair on the DTG software! Software sometimes gets corrupted and does weird things! JM.02

 

[IYFGraphics]

How does printing a second pass save on time ?? it doesn't you can have a pretreated shirt done in the time a second pass is going.. plus the shirt is gonna last longer especially workability. Also, its not gonna give a heavy feel to it especially with 2 passes of ink.

wait till you have a 100 piece order and you have to print the shirt twice that's 200 prints..

I have to agree with Carla, two passes of CMYK on a white shirt is wasteful, unnecessary, and in lot a cases causes bleeding of the colors ruining the sharp detail of the graphic....and that 100 pc order, both sides is 400 prints doing two passes. if you must light pretreatment is a better option saving you tons of time over the second pass not to mention the money saving on extra ink.

JMHO

 

[Don-ColDesi]

THX,

If you are using two different platens does it happen on both platens or only on one? You could also eliminate the platens by printing on a piece of paper taped to the bed to see if it occurs without the platen involved.

Another thing, are you using the reprint command or production run?

 

[THX1138]

THX,

If you are using two different platens does it happen on both platens or only on one? You could also eliminate the platens by printing on a piece of paper taped to the bed to see if it occurs without the platen involved.

Another thing, are you using the reprint command or production run?

i only have one platten, i am using reprint, the same as i have been using for 4 years. the problem just popped up last week.

 

[equipmentzone]

Your rollers could be slipping on the yellow plastic sheet under your shirt holder tray. Since this should be part of your maintenance program anyway it won't hurt to clean it and see if it fixes your problem. I attached a pdf instruction sheet. It's for the T-Jet 2 but the procedure is exactly the same for the Kiosk.

Harry
Equipment Zone

 

[Don-ColDesi]

I thought the registration issue was Horizontal - meaning in the X-axis not in the Y-axis (Vertical) - the board Harry mentioned is part of the Y-axis movement.

If the machine is printing too high on the shirt on the second pass it could absolutely be the yellow board.

 

[THX1138]

I thought the registration issue was Horizontal - meaning in the X-axis not in the Y-axis (Vertical) - the board Harry mentioned is part of the Y-axis movement.

If the machine is printing too high on the shirt on the second pass it could absolutely be the yellow board.

heh, i guess it depends on which way you are looking at the machine. it didnt come with labels

Yes, second pass is printing too high or too low, not sure which as i wasnt watching it until it had happened.

I did clean the rotating encoder with cleaning solution and a lint free towel.