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I am a high school teacher that just got approved to order screen printing equipment. I am getting a Ryonet 6 station press, conveyer dryer, and a flash dryer. Pretty much a small shop set up.

My question is what and how much supplies do you think I should purchase for the class. I am getting some supplies from the order but Im not sure how much extra I should get. I have personal experience with screen printing but never at this level of possible production. The school colors are purple and gold if anyone is interested.

I only have about $1000 to spend.

Thanks.
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The amount of supplies you order would depend on how much printing you plan on doing. A bit more information may help us narrow it down. Is this just a class project? Will you be producing items for the entire school? How large is the class?
Well how big is your class? How many hours will they be spending in the shop, and how many screens will they print each? Ink shouldn't be a huge problem, if you use it well you can produce a lot from a single can.
The production is unknown at this time. Will will do runs of club shirts and sport shirts. No one has ever had screen printing before so I am unsure on the amount of production. But what I get has to last they whole year. That is the fun of my problem. This is mostly just a guessing game with a $1000 limit.
You might want to consider just contacting a local screen printer or two and see if they would assist in donating some supplies to you. You might get to create a good mutually beneficial relationship where you get some free or low cost supplies and they get potential new employees from you.

I'm here in Southern California, so I'm too far away. I'd just find a few screen printing companies in the yellow pages and I'll bet you get more assistance than you think.
Thats my 2 cents-
Local screenprinters might not be too keen on donating supplies, since many might do a lot of school club business. I know I do, and I'd be unlikely to hand over the "fixin's" so that someone could take the work away, too.
You might do better with a local supplier, though, who may have ink on the shelf that doesn't sell well.
To be honest, since this is a class, you might be better off stocking only the two school colors, plus black and white. You're going to need emulsion, screens, chemicals to reclaim, and so forth. Gallons of ink will eat up your entire budget pretty quickly, so you'll have to keep the selection to a minimum. As for doing club work, you might want to figure out your raw material cost, and charge the club for that to replace ink, emulsion, and chemicals. If they think they can just run to Wal-Mart and buy some shirts and you'll print up all they need, you'll run out of stuff pretty quick with a fixed budget. Use your $1000 for CLASS work, and charge the clubs the material costs that go directly into their shirts. Maybe a buck a shirt.
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Thanks guys I will most definitely contact an local printer. I have just the one in mind. Also I will be charging clubs to do work. They are already aware of this.
White (You will use alot)
Black (You will use this next alot)
Yellow G/S (Green Shade)
Yellow R/S (Red Shade)
Red Y/S (Yellow Shade)
Red B/S (Blue Shade)
Magenta
Violet
Blue G/S
Blue R/S
Neon Cerise
Neon Green
Extender Base

This way you can mix any color and print on anything. AND keep you in budget! PM me if you need more info.
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Thanks guys I will most definitely contact an local printer. I have just the one in mind. Also I will be charging clubs to do work. They are already aware of this.

This thread saddens me!!!!!!!

The problem I see with this is your local printer supports his family from screen printing.

People like yourself have only taught school and never been in any kind of business.

One day you may understand if you decide to open a business and someone jumps in the same business just because it looks fun.

People like you cheapen the screen printing industry.

You are hurting your local merchants that always donate money anytime you have a fund raiser.

If you wanted to help your local screen printer, you would offer a coral or illustrator class, so some of the kids that may not go to college will be able to go work for the screen printer as a graphic artist.


Instead....you want to print shirts and take money from his family. On top of that, you have the nerve to ask him to donate products?

If you ever open a business...this may back fire on you!




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Hey we should close all the technical / skilled trades classes in the country. Those evil vocational programs! That must be the reason our economy is in the crapper, all these darn schools stealing the local work and starving the local business owners families. People should not learn a skill unless they already know how to do it, what are you thinking,, lmfao
A trade school will teach them the trade...that is great.

But a high school is not about teaching them the trade as much as finding a way to raise money even if that means on stepping on toes of people that support them.

The bottom line is...our tax money pays their salary.
On top of that, they are always sticking out their hand for donations.

They contract out a few t shirt jobs and think...wow..that is easy.....we could do it ourself and make money.

If you read closely....he typed: I have personal experience with screen printing but never at this level of possible production.

So obviously he has set his goals high for production.....then in the same breath thinking about going to the local printer for donations.

The part where I don't see eye to eye is: They do it for fun....selling it cheap to barely make a buck....this is cutting out a small mom and pop shop that is doing this for a living.

Then the client goes to a print shop wondering why they have to pay $20-$25 for a tee shirt when they only paid $5 at school.

It doesn't hurt me because I am not in that market...but if all the schools started doing this...it will hurt MOM & POP shops.


Kind of like the dog biting the hand that feeds them.
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WOW! it has been a while since I have picked up this thread. If yall are so worried about a small high school graphic arts program then you really need to look at yourself and your company.

We are up and running and we are printing maybe 50 shirts a week. That is stealing so much money from your company. We are only allowed to print for our school clubs and teams. The price we charge pays for the shirts and ink and that is about it. Allowing kids (environmental club ) who normally couldn't get shirts for themselves because they only have 5 members. We are teaching a skill to be applied to the real word and with luck our main goal is for them to be picked up by one of the professional printers in our area. As a matter of fact I just had a student hired by one of the local printers just last week. How about that. Having new employees that you don't have to train from scratch.

The smart thing would to be partnering with the programs so 1 they could order blanks from you. 2 you could help train or point the training in the right direction you want it to be. 3. if students parents want work done the teacher will point them in your direction. 4. you could have an easy source of highly trained employees feeding into your business.

But this is just my 2 cents. I am just the person trying to put you out of business and ruining the economy.
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A trade school will teach them the trade...that is great.

But a high school is not about teaching them the trade as much as finding a way to raise money even if that means on stepping on toes of people that support them.

The bottom line is...our tax money pays their salary.
On top of that, they are always sticking out their hand for donations.

They contract out a few t shirt jobs and think...wow..that is easy.....we could do it ourself and make money.

If you read closely....he typed: I have personal experience with screen printing but never at this level of possible production.

So obviously he has set his goals high for production.....then in the same breath thinking about going to the local printer for donations.

The part where I don't see eye to eye is: They do it for fun....selling it cheap to barely make a buck....this is cutting out a small mom and pop shop that is doing this for a living.

Then the client goes to a print shop wondering why they have to pay $20-$25 for a tee shirt when they only paid $5 at school.

It doesn't hurt me because I am not in that market...but if all the schools started doing this...it will hurt MOM & POP shops.


Kind of like the dog biting the hand that feeds them.
I understand what you are saying I just think the damage would be minimal.
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